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Why is Dixie D’Amelio okay with Lil huddy dating her little sister?

2020.06.11 17:32 Jabaggs Why is Dixie D’Amelio okay with Lil huddy dating her little sister?

Dixie D’Amelio and Lil Huddy is the same age they are both 18 and Charli D’Amelio who is Dixie D’Amelio little sister is 15 but she was dating Lil Huddy for a long time and they broke up a little while ago because Lil Huddy was in another chicks dms trying to get with her but the reason why I am asking this question is because Charli and Lil Huddy recently posted vids with them with each other hanging out like they are friends still so it’s a real possibility that they might get back together but why is Dixie D’Amelio okay with this and letting it happen? She is the same age as Lil Huddy so why does she let him date her little sister? Why doesn’t she say anything about it?
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2020.05.30 01:18 sadpenis6969 If a guy as ugly as lil huddy can date a girl like Charli D’Amelio, you can easily date your crush bro

And before you say Charli damerlio isn’t that attractive, keep in mind that guys 100x hotter than lil huddy wanted to date her
Ok now I’m done talk abt tik tok
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2020.05.30 01:03 sadpenis6969 So I got the clearance to call a racist person ugly

Lil huddy is so fckin ugly who the fuck would ever like him wtf how does he have so many female simps I stg he has tiny dick energy girls literally defend him because he’s an “eboy” I wouldn’t date him if I were being paid $100 honestly
Okay that is all
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2020.05.03 09:27 xxglitterkittenxx Charlie D’Amelio isn’t anyone exciting

She’s a 15 year old who performs mediocre dances on TikTok, that other people have created, and gets fame for that. You’re telling me, that this chick is worth millions now because she danced the Renegade, a dance that someone else created? If she were to make up her own dances that would be different.
Also, why did everyone glorify her when her nudes were leaked? This girl is 15!! A minor!! But still everyone was like “she should embrace it! It’s okay!” It’s not fine when a minor’s nudes are being spread around like wildfire! I’m not saying to bully the girl and shame her, but don’t glorify her either!
Bonus: she was never dating lil huddy. It was all a staged thing for publicity. When they were literally just in the same video, the vids would blow up. Then this “cheating” scandal happened which gives people the opportunity to talk more and more about the two. It was all for views and publicity.
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2020.02.12 19:37 WEDWAYpplmovr When/Did House ever jump the shark?

I know we all love House, but let’s take a step back and put our shoes back in the general public. For those who don’t know, jumping the shark refers to when a show changes so significantly that it loses its charm using gimmicky plot lines, characters, etc...
Both of my JTS theories involve Cuddy, dating Lucas who got thrust into the series for some reason, or season 7’s “Huddy” relationship. It seemed forced and unnecessary, and the way it ended was too absurd for me
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2019.08.26 01:03 SirMctrolington The Nationals sweep the Cubs at Wrigley 3-0

Nationals (70-57) @ Cubs (69-58)

First Pitch: 2:20 PM at Wrigley Field
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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
WSH 1 0 1 2 3 0 1 0 1 9 14 1
CHC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 3 3 1

Box Score

CHC AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA WSH AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA
CF Heyward 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264 SS Turner 4 0 1 1 0 0 0 .296
P Phelps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 RF Eaton 5 1 1 1 0 1 0 .290
P Cishek 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 3B Rendon 5 1 1 0 0 1 0 .323
3B Caratini 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 .247 LF Soto 4 4 3 1 1 0 0 .290
RF Castellanos 4 1 2 1 0 1 0 .292 1B Kendrick 5 0 2 1 0 2 0 .325
3B Bryant 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .284 C Suzuki 4 2 1 1 0 1 0 .269
P Holland, D 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .077 2B Dozier, B 4 0 1 0 1 3 0 .235
1B Rizzo 3 0 1 1 1 1 0 .291 CF Robles 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 .252
SS Báez, J 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .281 P Sánchez, An 3 0 2 1 0 0 0 .093
P Chatwood 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .188 P Grace 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
CF Happ, I 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .242
LF Schwarber 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 .225
C Lucroy 3 0 0 0 0 2 0 .246
2B Kemp, T 2 1 0 0 1 1 0 .219
P Lester 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .189
P Strop 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
SS Russell 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
CHC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA WSH IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Lester 4.1 9 6 6 1 2 95-59 4.49 Sánchez, An 8.1 1 2 1 2 6 112-76 3.81
Strop 0.2 1 1 1 1 1 20-11 5.58 Grace 0.2 2 1 1 0 1 13-7 6.36
Chatwood 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 15-9 4.03
Phelps 1.0 1 1 1 0 2 16-11 3.47
Cishek 1.0 2 0 0 0 1 19-13 3.44
Holland, D 1.0 1 1 1 1 2 24-15 5.74

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
T1 Adam Eaton homers (12) on a line drive to right center field. 0-1
T3 Trea Turner out on a sacrifice fly to right fielder Nicholas Castellanos. Victor Robles scores. 0-2
T4 Kurt Suzuki singles on a sharp line drive to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Juan Soto scores. Howie Kendrick to 2nd. 0-3
T4 Anibal Sanchez singles on a bunt ground ball to third baseman Kris Bryant. Kurt Suzuki scores. Brian Dozier to 3rd. Victor Robles to 2nd. 0-4
T5 Brian Dozier walks. 0-5
T5 Victor Robles doubles (24) on a line drive to right fielder Nicholas Castellanos. Juan Soto scores. Kurt Suzuki scores. Brian Dozier to 3rd. 0-7
T7 Juan Soto homers (29) on a fly ball to center field. 0-8
T9 Howie Kendrick doubles (20) on a fly ball to right fielder Nicholas Castellanos. Juan Soto scores. 0-9
B9 Victor Caratini reaches on a throwing error by third baseman Anthony Rendon. Tony Kemp scores. Victor Caratini to 2nd. 1-9
B9 Nicholas Castellanos doubles (45) on a line drive to right fielder Adam Eaton. Victor Caratini scores. 2-9
B9 Anthony Rizzo singles on a ground ball to center fielder Victor Robles, deflected by shortstop Trea Turner. Nicholas Castellanos scores. 3-9

Highlights

Description Length HD
Eaton opens scoring with solo homer 0:51 HD
Turner hits sac fly to deep right 0:27 HD
Baez completes smooth double play 0:31 HD
Suzuki hits an RBI single to left 0:39 HD
Sanchez collects RBI with perfect bunt 0:39 HD
Baez saves run, nabs Kendrick 1:00 HD
Doolittle tests out knee before game 1:13 HD
Rendon comes home on Strop's wild pitch 0:27 HD
Lester K's Dozier, ends the 2nd 0:16 HD
"Vic" lofts two-run double to right 0:33 HD
"Soto Pachecho" hits solo homer in 7th 0:32 HD
Kendrick adds to lead with RBI double 0:34 HD
Holland wears 'The Office' cleats 0:29 HD
Cubs score first run on error 0:15 HD
Castellanos lines an RBI double to right 0:18 HD
Rizzo's RBI single 0:17 HD

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Sánchez, An (8-6, 3.81) Lester (10-9, 4.49)
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Nationals (71-57) @ Cubs (69-59)

First Pitch: 2:20 PM at Wrigley Field
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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
WSH 1 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 1 7 9 1
CHC 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 7 2

Box Score

CHC AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA WSH AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA
CF Heyward 3 0 1 0 2 0 0 .265 SS Turner 3 2 2 0 2 0 1 .298
RF Castellanos 5 1 2 1 0 2 0 .294 RF Eaton 5 1 2 1 0 1 0 .291
3B Bryant 3 0 0 0 1 1 0 .282 3B Rendon 2 0 1 1 2 1 0 .323
1B Rizzo 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .290 LF Soto 4 2 0 1 1 1 0 .287
C Lucroy 2 0 1 1 0 1 0 .248 1B Kendrick 4 1 2 2 1 0 0 .327
SS Báez, J 4 0 2 0 0 2 0 .283 2B Dozier, B 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 .233
LF Schwarber 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 .223 CF Robles 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 .250
1B Caratini 4 1 1 0 0 2 0 .247 C Gomes 5 0 2 2 0 1 0 .219
2B Kemp, T 3 0 0 0 1 1 0 .216 P Ross, J 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .133
P Quintana 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .064 P Suero 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
PH Happ, I 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .238 PH Parra 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 .245
P Chatwood 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .188 P Rainey 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Ryan 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 P Strickland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Cishek 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 PH Adams, M 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244
P Wick 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 P Rodney 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Strop 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 PH Cabrera, A 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
PH Russell 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .239 P Hudson, D 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
CHC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA WSH IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Quintana 4.0 7 5 4 3 3 79-44 4.05 Ross, J 4.1 6 2 2 4 3 88-48 5.36
Chatwood 1.1 1 1 1 1 0 24-13 4.09 Suero 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 8-5 4.82
Ryan 0.2 0 0 0 1 0 8-5 3.17 Rainey 1.0 0 0 0 2 2 18-9 4.01
Cishek 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 18-9 3.38 Strickland 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 21-15 2.70
Wick 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 19-10 2.21 Rodney 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 12-10 5.73
Strop 1.0 1 1 1 2 1 29-14 5.68 Hudson, D 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 19-14 2.78

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
T1 Anthony Rendon out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Trea Turner scores. 0-1
T3 Juan Soto grounds into a force out, second baseman Tony Kemp to shortstop Javier Baez. Trea Turner scores. Adam Eaton to 3rd. Anthony Rendon out at 2nd. Juan Soto to 1st. 0-2
T3 Howie Kendrick singles on a ground ball to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Adam Eaton scores. Juan Soto to 2nd. 0-3
T3 Yan Gomes singles on a ground ball to center fielder Jason Heyward. Juan Soto scores. Howie Kendrick scores. Brian Dozier to 3rd. 0-5
B3 Nicholas Castellanos singles on a ground ball to left fielder Juan Soto. Victor Caratini scores. Jason Heyward to 2nd. 1-5
B5 Jonathan Lucroy hits a ground-rule double (10) on a line drive to left field. Nicholas Castellanos scores. Kris Bryant to 3rd. 2-5
T6 Adam Eaton grounds out sharply, second baseman Tony Kemp to first baseman Victor Caratini. Gerardo Parra scores. Trea Turner to 3rd. 2-6
T9 Howie Kendrick doubles (21) on a line drive to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Juan Soto scores. 2-7

Highlights

Description Length HD
"T³" scores on "Ant"'s sacrifice fly 0:23 HD
"T³" scores on "Soto Pacheco"'s grounder 0:26 HD
"Truck" smacks an RBI single to left field 0:29 HD
"Gomer" knocks a 2-run single up the middle 0:38 HD
"Artist" smokes an RBI single to left field 0:41 HD
"Lelo" strikes out "Vic" with bases loaded 0:24 HD
"JR" fans "Happer," strands bases loaded 0:17 HD
"Happer" gets tossed for arguing strike 3 0:38 HD
"Chieng" robs "Truck" with diving stop 0:20 HD
"Luc" laces an RBI ground-rule double 0:40 HD
"The Animal" gets ""Schwarbs," strands two 0:29 HD
"Tony" leaves game with mid-back tightness 0:31 HD
"El Yolo" scores on "Spanky"'s groundout 0:35 HD
"El Yolo" steals third after review 1:28 HD
"Chieng" saves a run with diving stop 0:26 HD
Alex Debrincat joins Cubs booth for stretch 1:51 HD
"Chieng" makes several sweet defensive plays 1:19 HD
"Truck" ropes an RBI double to left field 0:41 HD
"Huddy" fans "Artist" to end the game 0:09 HD

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Suero (4-7, 4.82) Quintana (11-8, 4.05)
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Nationals (72-57) @ Cubs (69-60)

First Pitch: 2:20 PM at Wrigley Field
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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 R H E
WSH 0 0 0 1 0 1 3 0 0 0 2 7 14 0
CHC 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 5 7 0

Box Score

CHC AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA WSH AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA
CF Heyward 4 1 1 0 0 1 0 .265 SS Turner 5 1 2 0 1 0 1 .300
RF Castellanos 5 0 1 0 0 1 0 .293 CF Robles 6 1 1 0 0 1 2 .249
3B Bryant 5 0 1 1 0 2 0 .281 3B Rendon 5 2 4 2 1 0 0 .329
SS Báez, J 4 1 0 0 1 2 0 .281 LF Soto 6 1 3 1 0 0 0 .290
LF Schwarber 5 1 2 2 0 2 0 .225 2B Cabrera, A 4 0 2 2 1 1 0 .248
C Lucroy 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .245 C Suzuki 5 0 0 0 0 2 0 .264
P Kintzler 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 2B Dozier, B 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .230
PH Kemp, T 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .215 P Hudson, D 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Kimbrel 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 RF Parra 5 0 0 0 0 1 0 .240
P Cishek 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 P Strasburg 2 0 1 0 0 1 0 .164
P Chatwood 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .188 PH Eaton 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 .291
PH Bote 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .257 P Strickland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
2B Russell 5 1 1 1 0 1 0 .238 PH Adams, M 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244
1B Happ, I 3 0 0 0 1 1 0 .227 P Rodney 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Hamels 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 .088 P Suero 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Phelps 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 1B Kendrick 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 .330
P Wick 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Ryan 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
C Caratini 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 .252
CHC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA WSH IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Hamels 5.0 7 2 2 1 3 97-65 3.73 Strasburg 6.0 5 2 2 1 10 113-74 3.63
Phelps 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 11-6 3.33 Strickland 1.0 1 1 1 0 0 18-10 3.14
Wick 0.2 1 3 3 2 0 24-12 3.43 Rodney 1.0 1 2 2 1 1 18-8 6.09
Ryan 0.0 2 0 0 0 0 11-7 3.17 Suero 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 22-11 4.74
Kintzler 1.1 0 0 0 0 1 13-10 2.36 Hudson, D 2.0 0 0 0 0 2 29-19 2.69
Kimbrel 1.0 1 0 0 1 1 25-14 4.96
Cishek 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 14-9 3.31
Chatwood 1.0 3 2 2 0 0 20-12 4.31

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
T4 Anthony Rendon homers (29) on a fly ball to left field. 0-1
B5 Addison Russell homers (7) on a fly ball to left field. 1-1
T6 Kurt Suzuki grounds into a double play, shortstop Javier Baez to second baseman Addison Russell to first baseman Ian Happ. Juan Soto scores. Asdrubal Cabrera out at 2nd. Kurt Suzuki out at 1st. 1-2
B6 Kris Bryant singles on a ground ball to left fielder Juan Soto. Jason Heyward scores. Nicholas Castellanos to 2nd. 2-2
T7 Juan Soto singles on a ground ball to shortstop Javier Baez. Adam Eaton scores. Victor Robles to 3rd. Anthony Rendon to 2nd. 2-3
T7 Asdrubal Cabrera singles on a line drive to right fielder Nicholas Castellanos. Victor Robles scores. Anthony Rendon scores. Juan Soto to 3rd. 2-5
B7 Victor Caratini homers (7) on a fly ball to right field. 3-5
B8 Kyle Schwarber homers (30) on a fly ball to left center field. Javier Baez scores. 5-5
T11 Anthony Rendon singles on a line drive to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Trea Turner scores. 5-7

Highlights

Description Length HD
"Ant" belts a solo home run to deep left 0:46 HD
"Schwarbs" makes a terrific diving catch 0:31 HD
Cubs send Holland to IL, recall Bote 0:35 HD
Strasburg reaches first following review 2:30 HD
Russell belts a solo home run to deep left 0:33 HD
"KB" makes a spectacular diving stop 0:27 HD
"Soto Pacheco" scores on a DP in 6th 0:40 HD
"KB" laces an RBI single to left 0:39 HD
"Hollywood" strikes out Robles in the 3rd 0:10 HD
"Stras" fansBaez twice, notches 200th K 0:37 HD
"Stras" strikes out 10 across 6 great frames 1:12 HD
"Soto Pacheco" smacks a go-ahead RBI single 0:43 HD
Cabrera cracks a 2-run single to right 0:41 HD
"Vic" cranks a solo home run to right 0:32 HD
"Schwarbs" drills a game-tying HR in 8th 0:37 HD
"El Yolo" races back to make a strong catch 0:37 HD
"Dirty Craig" freezes Cabrera, strands 2 0:14 HD
"Truck" scores go-ahead run on WP in 11th 0:30 HD
Rendon's RBI single in the 11th 0:17 HD
Addison Russell flies out to right fielder Gerardo Parra. 0:14 HD

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Hudson, D (7-3, 2.69) Chatwood (5-2, 4.31)
Game ended at 6:58 PM.
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2019.08.24 18:20 NationalsBot GAME THREAD: Nationals (71-57) @ Cubs (69-59) - August 24, 2019

Nationals (71-57) @ Cubs (69-59)

First Pitch: 2:20 PM at Wrigley Field
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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
WSH 1 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 1 7 9 1
CHC 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 7 2

Box Score

CHC AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA WSH AB R H RBI BB SO SB BA
CF Heyward 3 0 1 0 2 0 0 .265 SS Turner 3 2 2 0 2 0 1 .298
RF Castellanos 5 1 2 1 0 2 0 .294 RF Eaton 5 1 2 1 0 1 0 .291
3B Bryant 3 0 0 0 1 1 0 .282 3B Rendon 2 0 1 1 2 1 0 .323
1B Rizzo 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 .290 LF Soto 4 2 0 1 1 1 0 .287
C Lucroy 2 0 1 1 0 1 0 .248 1B Kendrick 4 1 2 2 1 0 0 .327
SS Báez, J 4 0 2 0 0 2 0 .283 2B Dozier, B 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 .233
LF Schwarber 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 .223 CF Robles 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 .250
1B Caratini 4 1 1 0 0 2 0 .247 C Gomes 5 0 2 2 0 1 0 .219
2B Kemp, T 3 0 0 0 1 1 0 .216 P Ross, J 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .133
P Quintana 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .064 P Suero 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
PH Happ, I 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .238 PH Parra 1 1 0 0 0 0 2 .245
P Chatwood 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .188 P Rainey 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Ryan 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .000 P Strickland 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Cishek 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 PH Adams, M 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .244
P Wick 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 P Rodney 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Strop 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 PH Cabrera, A 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .245
PH Russell 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .239 P Hudson, D 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
CHC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA WSH IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Quintana 4.0 7 5 4 3 3 79-44 4.05 Ross, J 4.1 6 2 2 4 3 88-48 5.36
Chatwood 1.1 1 1 1 1 0 24-13 4.09 Suero 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 8-5 4.82
Ryan 0.2 0 0 0 1 0 8-5 3.17 Rainey 1.0 0 0 0 2 2 18-9 4.01
Cishek 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 18-9 3.38 Strickland 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 21-15 2.70
Wick 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 19-10 2.21 Rodney 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 12-10 5.73
Strop 1.0 1 1 1 2 1 29-14 5.68 Hudson, D 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 19-14 2.78

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
T1 Anthony Rendon out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Trea Turner scores. 0-1
T3 Juan Soto grounds into a force out, second baseman Tony Kemp to shortstop Javier Baez. Trea Turner scores. Adam Eaton to 3rd. Anthony Rendon out at 2nd. Juan Soto to 1st. 0-2
T3 Howie Kendrick singles on a ground ball to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Adam Eaton scores. Juan Soto to 2nd. 0-3
T3 Yan Gomes singles on a ground ball to center fielder Jason Heyward. Juan Soto scores. Howie Kendrick scores. Brian Dozier to 3rd. 0-5
B3 Nicholas Castellanos singles on a ground ball to left fielder Juan Soto. Victor Caratini scores. Jason Heyward to 2nd. 1-5
B5 Jonathan Lucroy hits a ground-rule double (10) on a line drive to left field. Nicholas Castellanos scores. Kris Bryant to 3rd. 2-5
T6 Adam Eaton grounds out sharply, second baseman Tony Kemp to first baseman Victor Caratini. Gerardo Parra scores. Trea Turner to 3rd. 2-6
T9 Howie Kendrick doubles (21) on a line drive to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Juan Soto scores. 2-7

Highlights

Description Length HD
"T³" scores on "Ant"'s sacrifice fly 0:23 HD
"T³" scores on "Soto Pacheco"'s grounder 0:26 HD
"Truck" smacks an RBI single to left field 0:29 HD
"Gomer" knocks a 2-run single up the middle 0:38 HD
"Artist" smokes an RBI single to left field 0:41 HD
"Lelo" strikes out "Vic" with bases loaded 0:24 HD
"JR" fans "Happer," strands bases loaded 0:17 HD
"Happer" gets tossed for arguing strike 3 0:38 HD
"Chieng" robs "Truck" with diving stop 0:20 HD
"Luc" laces an RBI ground-rule double 0:40 HD
"The Animal" gets ""Schwarbs," strands two 0:29 HD
"Tony" leaves game with mid-back tightness 0:31 HD
"El Yolo" scores on "Spanky"'s groundout 0:35 HD
"El Yolo" steals third after review 1:28 HD
"Chieng" saves a run with diving stop 0:26 HD
Alex Debrincat joins Cubs booth for stretch 1:51 HD
"Chieng" makes several sweet defensive plays 1:19 HD
"Truck" ropes an RBI double to left field 0:41 HD
"Huddy" fans "Artist" to end the game 0:09 HD

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Suero (4-7, 4.82) Quintana (11-8, 4.05)
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2019.08.24 17:20 ChiCubsbot GDT: 8/24 Nationals (71-57) @ Cubs (69-59) 1:20 PM

Nationals (71-57) @ Cubs (69-59)

First Pitch: 1:20 PM at Wrigley Field
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Line Score - Game Over

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
WSH 1 0 4 0 0 1 0 0 1 7 9 1
CHC 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 7 2

Box Score

CHC AB R H RBI BB SO BA
CF Heyward 3 0 1 0 2 0 .265
RF Castellanos 5 1 2 1 0 2 .294
3B Bryant 3 0 0 0 1 1 .282
1B Rizzo 1 0 0 0 1 0 .290
C Lucroy 2 0 1 1 0 1 .248
SS Báez, J 4 0 2 0 0 2 .283
LF Schwarber 4 0 0 0 0 1 .223
1B Caratini 4 1 1 0 0 2 .247
2B Kemp, T 3 0 0 0 1 1 .216
P Quintana 0 0 0 0 0 0 .064
PH Happ, I 1 0 0 0 0 1 .238
P Chatwood 0 0 0 0 0 0 .188
P Ryan 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000
P Cishek 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Wick 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Strop 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
PH Russell 1 0 0 0 0 1 .239
CHC IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Quintana 4.0 7 5 4 3 3 79-44 4.05
Chatwood 1.1 1 1 1 1 0 24-13 4.09
Ryan 0.2 0 0 0 1 0 8-5 3.17
Cishek 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 18-9 3.38
Wick 1.0 0 0 0 1 1 19-10 2.21
Strop 1.0 1 1 1 2 1 29-14 5.68
WSH AB R H RBI BB SO BA
SS Turner 3 2 2 0 2 0 .298
RF Eaton 5 1 2 1 0 1 .291
3B Rendon 2 0 1 1 2 1 .323
LF Soto 4 2 0 1 1 1 .287
1B Kendrick 4 1 2 2 1 0 .327
2B Dozier, B 2 0 0 0 3 0 .233
CF Robles 4 0 0 0 0 2 .250
C Gomes 5 0 2 2 0 1 .219
P Ross, J 2 0 0 0 0 0 .133
P Suero 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
PH Parra 1 1 0 0 0 0 .245
P Rainey 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P Strickland 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
PH Adams, M 1 0 0 0 0 0 .244
P Rodney 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
PH Cabrera, A 1 0 0 0 0 0 .245
P Hudson, D 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
WSH IP H R ER BB SO P-S ERA
Ross, J 4.1 6 2 2 4 3 88-48 5.36
Suero 0.2 0 0 0 0 1 8-5 4.82
Rainey 1.0 0 0 0 2 2 18-9 4.01
Strickland 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 21-15 2.70
Rodney 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 12-10 5.73
Hudson, D 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 19-14 2.78

Scoring Plays

Inning Event Score
T1 Anthony Rendon out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Trea Turner scores. 0-1
T3 Juan Soto grounds into a force out, second baseman Tony Kemp to shortstop Javier Baez. Trea Turner scores. Adam Eaton to 3rd. Anthony Rendon out at 2nd. Juan Soto to 1st. 0-2
T3 Howie Kendrick singles on a ground ball to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Adam Eaton scores. Juan Soto to 2nd. 0-3
T3 Yan Gomes singles on a ground ball to center fielder Jason Heyward. Juan Soto scores. Howie Kendrick scores. Brian Dozier to 3rd. 0-5
B3 Nicholas Castellanos singles on a ground ball to left fielder Juan Soto. Victor Caratini scores. Jason Heyward to 2nd. 1-5
B5 Jonathan Lucroy hits a ground-rule double (10) on a line drive to left field. Nicholas Castellanos scores. Kris Bryant to 3rd. 2-5
T6 Adam Eaton grounds out sharply, second baseman Tony Kemp to first baseman Victor Caratini. Gerardo Parra scores. Trea Turner to 3rd. 2-6
T9 Howie Kendrick doubles (21) on a line drive to left fielder Kyle Schwarber. Juan Soto scores. 2-7

Highlights

Description Length HD
"T³" scores on "Ant"'s sacrifice fly 0:23 HD
"T³" scores on "Soto Pacheco"'s grounder 0:26 HD
"Truck" smacks an RBI single to left field 0:29 HD
"Gomer" knocks a 2-run single up the middle 0:38 HD
"Artist" smokes an RBI single to left field 0:41 HD
"Lelo" strikes out "Vic" with bases loaded 0:24 HD
"JR" fans "Happer," strands bases loaded 0:17 HD
"Happer" gets tossed for arguing strike 3 0:38 HD
"Chieng" robs "Truck" with diving stop 0:20 HD
"Luc" laces an RBI ground-rule double 0:40 HD
"The Animal" gets ""Schwarbs," strands two 0:29 HD
"Tony" leaves game with mid-back tightness 0:31 HD
"El Yolo" scores on "Spanky"'s groundout 0:35 HD
"El Yolo" steals third after review 1:28 HD
"Chieng" saves a run with diving stop 0:26 HD
Alex Debrincat joins Cubs booth for stretch 1:51 HD
"Chieng" makes several sweet defensive plays 1:19 HD
"Truck" ropes an RBI double to left field 0:41 HD
"Huddy" fans "Artist" to end the game 0:09 HD

Decisions

Winning Pitcher Losing Pitcher Save
Suero (4-7, 4.82) Quintana (11-8, 4.05)
Game ended at 5:20 PM.
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2019.06.23 21:59 vcardthrow1 E Jean Carroll of Elle, on her assault by Donald Trump

This is long but it really stuck with me when it came into my twitter feed. The anecdote with Trump is at the end but I thought the whole essay was pretty powerful.
I'm going to try to copy and paste the whole piece so you guys don't hit the paywall. I read this column growing up whenever I had Elle....I didn't realize she was a journalist. The pic of her is always this sleek, mysterious, sexy blond of a certain age giving advice in coquette-speak - she's very frank here. It's amazing to read an actual essay like this, not just column tidbits in a frothy magazine.
It's at the end and stunning. What she says about people loving hearing about what his base did to women is so true.
https://www.thecut.com/2019/06/donald-trump-assault-e-jean-carroll-other-hideous-men.html
Hideous Men Donald Trump assaulted me in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room 23 years ago. But he’s not alone on the list of awful men in my life.
My first rich boy pulled down my underpants. My last rich boy pulled down my tights. My first rich boy — I had fixed my eyes on his face long enough to know — was beautiful, with dark gray eyes and long golden-brown hair across his forehead. I don’t know what he grew up to be. My last rich boy was blond. He grew up to be the president of the United States.
The first rich boy’s name was James. He was raped by his grandfather. He was raped by his uncles. He was beaten by his father. My mother told me the stories much later. When James was 6, he was taken away from his father and given to a rich couple, Arthur and Evelyn. Arthur and Evelyn were best friends with my parents, Tom and Betty. One day my parents gave a party. Everyone brought their kids. Arthur and Evelyn drove up from Indianapolis with James to the redbrick schoolhouse where we lived, deep in the hills north of Fort Wayne. As the parents drank cocktails in our big yard with the scent of the blooming wads of cash infusing every inch of Indiana just after WWII, the kids played up on the hill beside the schoolhouse.
James was 7 and a half or 8, a bloodthirsty, beautiful, relentless boy. He ordered everyone around, even the older kids. To me he said, “I’m going to shove this up you again.”
We’d played this game before. Our families had gone on a camping trip to Pokagon State Park, and I learned that an object could be shoved up the place where I tinkled. I don’t remember now what it was, probably a stick, or maybe a rock. It felt like being cut with a knife. I remember I bled.
“I don’t want to,” I said.
We were standing on the hill. James looked at me with his feral gray eyes.
He wadded up a piece of fabric — it was a light blue-violet shade and looked fluffy, like a bunched-up hairnet.
“Put this in your underpants,” he said.
He pulled up my dress and crammed the balled-up material down my pants. Late at night, when the guests had gone home, I took off my dress, pulled down my pants. And there it still was, the wadded-up thing.
James and I played so many ferocious games while camping that summer: hooking each other with fishhooks, holding each other underwater, tying each other up, shooting each other with cap guns, chasing each other with garter snakes, dumping hot embers on each other’s heads. I am not putting him on the Most Hideous Men of My Life List — whether he belongs there is for him to decide. It is his uncles, his father, his grandfather who belong on such a list.
Now, about this Most Hideous Men of My Life List: It is a list of the 21 most revolting scoundrels I have ever met. I started it in October 2017, the day Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey published their Harvey Weinstein bombshells in the New York Times. As the riotous, sickening stories of #MeToo surged across the country, I, like many women, could not help but be reminded of certain men in my own life. When I began, I was not sure which among all the foul harassers, molesters, traducers, swindlers, stranglers, and no-goods I’ve known were going to make the final accounting. I considered Matt Lauer, Bill O’Reilly, and the giant dingleberry Charlie Rose, all guys whose TV shows I was on many times and who made headlines during the rise of #MeToo. But in the end, they do not make my Hideous List.
Hunter S. Thompson … now, there’s a good candidate. I know. I wrote his biography. Does Hunter, the greatest degenerate of his generation, who kept yelling, “Off with your pants!” as he sliced the leggings from my body with a long knife in his hot tub, make the list? Naw.
And if having my pants hacked off by a man lit to the eyebrows with acid, Chivas Regal, Champagne, grass, Chartreuse, Dunhills, cocaine, and Dove Bars does not make the list — because to me there is a big difference between an “adventure” and an “attack” — who, in God’s name, does make my Hideous List?
After almost two years of drawing and redrawing my list, I’ve come to realize that, though my hideosity bar is high, my criteria are a little cockeyed. It is a gut call. I am like Justice Potter Stewart. I just know a hideous man when I see one. And I have seen plenty. For 26 years, I have been writing the “Ask E. Jean” column in Elle, and for 26 years, no matter what problems are driving women crazy — their careers, wardrobes, love affairs, children, orgasms, finances — there comes a line in almost every letter when the cause of the correspondent’s quagmire is revealed. And that cause is men.
Viz.: the man who thinks 30 seconds of foreplay is “enough,” the man who cheats on his wife, the man who passes women over for promotion, the man who steals his girlfriend’s credit cards, the man who keeps 19 guns in the basement, the man who tells his co-worker she “talks too much in meetings,” the man who won’t bathe, the man who beats his girlfriend’s dog, the man who takes his female colleagues’ ideas, the man who tries to kill his rich wife by putting poison in her shampoo. Every woman, whether consciously or not, has a catalogue of the hideous men she’s known.
As it turns out, a Hideous Man marks practically every stage of my life. And so, Reader, from this cavalcade of 21 assholes, I am selecting a few choice specimens. One or two may not be pleasant for you to read about, I apologize. But if we all just lean over and put our heads between our knees, the fainting feeling will pass. No one need be carried from the room.
When I entered Indiana University, I was the most boy-crazy 17-year-old in the nation.
If you’d met me my freshman year, you would never have imagined I was born to be an advice columnist. But imagine it now. Thirteen miles from the Bloomington campus, there I am: young Jeanie Carroll, driving with a boy down a hilly back road in Brown County State Park, where IU students go on October Sundays to supposedly look at the famous leaves.
My situation in life — my father being a Beta Theta Pi from Wabash College, my mother being a Kappa Delta from UCLA, my wild wish to pledge either Pi Beta Phi or Kappa Kappa Gamma, my rah-rah disposition, my total ignorance of what is going on in the world, the fact that I never crack a book — all are equally against my becoming a columnist, the first requirement of which is acknowledging that there are other beings on the planet besides boys.
How I end up in that car, who the boy is … well, I don’t remember. I’ve been looking through my 1961 datebook, and each day is so chock-full of the names of boys who called me, the names of boys whom I expected to call me and didn’t, the names of boys who did call me but I didn’t care if they called me, the names of boys who if they didn’t call me I was never going to speak to again, the names of boys who if they called me I would not pick up the phone, and the names of boys I would have my roommate, Connie, call and ask if they called me while she was on the line with a boy who was begging me to call him back, I can’t figure out who this boy is. But meet No. 1 on the Most Hideous Men of My Life List.
He belongs to that class of boys who are not athletes and so must make their mark on campus with their devastating looks or gobs of money. I don’t remember this boy having either. I remember this boy’s thing is his car. It is a stick shift. Nobody knows how to “drive a stick,” he says, except him and A. J. Foyt, the Indianapolis 500 winner, and so I am amazed when he releases the clutch like he’s stepping on a yellow-jacket nest and grinds the gears when he pulls over in the dirt and stops.
I look around. “I gotta get back to the dorm,” I say.
He turns off the engine.
“Youuuuuuuu liiiitttttttttllllllllllll prrrrrrrrrrrrik teeeeeeeeeeez,” he says. This opening compliment, “You little prick tease,” is paid to every girl at some point or other in 1961, and I don’t wait to be paid another. I open the car door and slide out.
What am I wearing? Tennis shoes, jeans, big sweatshirt, and — blam, he lunges from the car and bolts his arms around me. We crash, like felled trees, to the ground.
We land in grass covered in yellow leaves. Thanks to Mr. Weber, my high-school biology teacher, I can, with 100 percent confidence, say those yellow leaves are poplar leaves. They crackle as I struggle to get up.
Straddling me, the boy looks zonked out of his mind with the possibilities. He pushes my sweatshirt up to my neck.
I remember the thought flashes through my mind that could I have foreseen the circumstance of a boy throwing me down and pushing my sweatshirt up to my chin, I would not have worn a padded bra. A padded bra makes a girl look like she lacks something.
“I don’t want to wrestle,” I say. “Get off!”
He pins my arms over my head by my wrists.
“Get off!” I say again.
He is holding my wrists with both his hands, and, before I can react, he changes his hold to one hand and, with his free hand, pulls a knife out of his back pocket.
“See this?” he whispers.
I look at it. At the time, I own two Girl Scout knives, a Girl Scout knife-safety certificate, and my own personal hatchet, and the neighbor kids believe I have reached a height of felicity rarely attained on Illsley Place, our street, because of my winning 30 rounds of mumblety-peg, a game where we throw pocketknives at each other’s bare feet. So, yes, I can “see” his knife. It’s a jackknife, a knife with a folding blade, dark brownish-gray, made out of some kind of horn, about five or six inches. If he opens it, it will measure, end to end, 10 or 11 inches. It’s not the knife. Well, it is the knife, but it’s the look on his face that scares me.
“Get off,” I say.
He pushes my bra up over my breasts. I can smell his excitement; it’s like electrified butter, and I zero in on the fact that he must use two hands to open the knife.
“Get off!” I say.
“I am gonna get off,” he whispers.
He lets go of both of my wrists for two seconds to open the knife, and I roll out from under him and run.
I was voted Best Girl Athlete in high school, but I was a high jumper, not a runner. I outrun this boy nonetheless. And on a twisty back road through tangled orange-and-scarlet thickets, a young couple in a car pick me up about a quarter-hour after I escape. The girl says, “I’ll bet a boy tried something with you,” and I say, “Yeah,” and that is the last word I utter about the attack until now.
Had I been an artist, I could have carried the front seat of the car the boy was driving wherever I went on Indiana University’s campus to protest his assault like Emma Sulkowicz carrying her mattress around Columbia University in the greatest art show of 2014, but I didn’t think of it. Perhaps hauling around just the gearshift would have sufficed. But, like many women who are attacked, when I had the most to say, I said the least.
Let’s just double-check my diary: Do I write that I went to the campus police and reported the boy? Do I say I went to the university health clinic and talked with a therapist? No. I say:
BE IT KNOWN—
That from this day forth I will not except [sic] or go on any dates that are not of my choice — they must be boys who are to my liking [I can’t read what I crossed out here]. I have to [sic] many things to do — rather than waste my time with CREEPY BOYS.
(signed) Jeanie Carroll
After college and bumming around Africa, I arrive in Chicago, ready to start my so-called career. I meet one of those semi-good-looking, brown-haired, unimpeachably but forgettably dressed young men who are vice-presidents because their fathers own the company, in this case an employment agency–and–accounting firm–type thing, which, despite the gloss of its golden promise, no longer exists.
He hires me to help “land new accounts.”
“You start tonight,” he says.
“Great!” I say.
“We’re meeting the people from Marshall Field’s. Be at the Pump Room at eight o’clock.”
“Wow!” I say. “The Pump Room!”
Congo-green paisley taffeta dinner suit, whisk-broom eyelashes, Rorschach-inkblot eye shadow, stacked heels, Marquis de Sade hair bow, and skirt up to here, I arrive in the Pump Room. I remember lots of white linen. Sparkling silver. The maître d’ escorts me to a booth, where No. 13 on the Most Hideous Men of My Life List rises to greet me and says, “They canceled.”
“Oh dear,” I reply.
“Never mind,” he says. “Sit down.”
He orders drinks, an extra glass of ice, tells me in detail about the new suit he is wearing, and then says, surprised, “Oh damn! My ex-wife just walked in.”
My false eyelashes spring open like parasols.
A smashingly put-together woman with a flamboyant mane of rich red hair is being escorted with an older chap (he is probably all of 35) to a table across the room. When they are seated, my boss raises his glass to her. She nods and raises one eyebrow at him.
“She’s a cunt,” he says.
Ten minutes later, an odd thing happens. My boss’s ex-wife takes her chap’s hand and raises it to her lips. A moment later, my boss takes my hand and raises it to his lips.
I jerk my hand away.
“Just a welcome smooch,” he says. “Don’t be bourgeois.”
He orders another drink. Across the room, my boss’s ex-wife glances at us and puts her two very, very red open lips on her chap’s cheek and — well, there is no verb available — squishes her lips up and down and sorta rolls them around his face like she is the press-and-steam girl at a dry cleaner.
By now, the question has occurred to you: Why does this woman seem so unfazed by all this horrible crap? After she concludes, my boss picks up the glass filled with ice, globs in a mouthful, crunches it for a few seconds, and then plants his freezing lips and tongue on my face.
I nearly fly out of the booth.
“GET OFF!” I cry. “Ewwwwwww!”
“You’re soooo booooooozzzzshwaaaaahh,” says my boss.
“Keep it in your mouth, mister!” I say. “Where’s the waiter? I need more bread and butter!”
I am not a foodie. Give me a three-cheese foot-long with a mound of red onions on it or a couple of Amy’s organic black-bean burritos and I’m happy. But wild, half-witted, greener-than-green Jeanie Carroll, 50 years before #MeToo, 40 years before women even begin expecting things could be different Jeanie Carroll, who takes her licks and doesn’t look back, is not about to pass up a dinner in the goddamn Pump Room!
I have the filet mignon. (One of the last times I ever eat meat, so disgusting is this night.)
My boss? He orders another drink and becomes more and more excited, slobbering on my hand like a Doberman playing with his squeaky toy, and meanwhile my boss’s ex-wife — who I now, half a century later, suspect was actually his wife and this was a little game they played to spice things up — starts rubbing her chap’s leg.
My boss and I can’t really see her doing it, as the table linen hangs nearly to the floor, but it is clear from the feverish action of her upper body that she is rubbing and rubbing and rubbing, and when her chap’s eyes close, she goes on rubbing until, with his face still smeared with lipstick and looking like a sophomore standing on the free-throw line in a tied game, the chap stands up, heaves a wad of cash on the table, grabs the wife, and they scamper toward the exit. My boss asks for the check.
My Jean Rhys Good Morning, Midnight room in the old Hotel Eastgate on Ontario Street no longer exists. But at the time, it is only a dozen or so blocks away, and my boss insists on driving me home. It is my first ride in a Mercedes. I am surprised at how uncomfortable the stiff leather seats are. Two or three blocks from my place, my boss runs a red light, stomps the brakes, skids to a halt, and, jabbering about “that cunt” or “a cunt” or “all cunts,” jams his hand between my legs so hard I bang my head into the dashboard trying to protect myself. I open the car door and bound into the traffic.
My boss must be doing the following things: pulling over, getting out, etc., because as I am about to turn in to the Hotel Eastgate, I look back and see him weaving toward me in a drunken trot. I remember that his legs look menacingly short. I run into the empty hotel lobby. Spurt past the desk. No manager in sight. Check the elevators. Decide to take the stairs two at a time. Hit the second floor. Feeling for the room key in my jacket pocket, I run down the hall, and as I try to put the key in the door, my boss catches me from behind and clamps his teeth on the nape of my neck. I kick backward at his shins, manage to get the key to work, jab a backward elbow into his ribs, squeeze into my room, and push, push, push the door closed.
Have you ever shut a dog outside who wants to come in? My boss scratches and whimpers at that door for the next quarter of an hour. The next day, I get a new job — and never has my lack of all talent been put to better advantage — as a greeter-and-seater at Gino’s East, the Chicago pizza joint beloved by mob guys, journos, and TV glamorosi, and do not so much as call No. 13 to tell him I quit.
Do I attract hideous men? Possibly. But I’ve also encountered many creeps, villains, dickwads,and chumps simply because I’ve been around a long time. I was mostly single, free of encumbrances, and working in the ’60s, ’70s, ’80s, and ’90s, when a woman could scarcely walk down the street without getting hit on or take a job without being underpaid.
So … we may proceed to No. 15 on the Most Hideous Men of My Life List: Les Moonves, chairman of the board, president, and chief executive officer of the CBS Corporation.
This happens in the time — one of the happiest of my happy life — when I am booming around the country writing for Esquire. I have been interviewing Moonves in the lounge of the Hotel Nikko in Beverly Hills for a story (presciently titled by my editor “Dangerous Minds,” February 1997), and the short, gravel-voiced Moonves apparently takes one look at me — a 50-something journalist in a pair of old brown-and-beige oxfords — and his life is no longer his own.
After the interview is finished (and for a man like Moonves, talking about himself for an hour and a half is as good as downing two gallons of Spanish fly), he follows me to the elevator. When I turn to say good-bye, he says: “You’re smart.”
I say: “Thank you!”
He says: “Smart enough to choose an out-of-the-way hotel,” and he steps into the elevator behind me and, his pants bursting with demands, goes at me like an octopus. I don’t know how many apertures and openings you possess, Reader, but Moonves, with his arms squirming and poking and goosing and scooping and pricking and prodding and jabbing, is looking for fissures I don’t even know I own, and — by God! — I am not certain that even if I pull off one of his arms it won’t crawl after me and attack me in my hotel bed. Hell, I am thrilled I escape before he expels his ink.
Naturally, I do not mention this in the article. I am a member of the Silent Generation. We do not flap our gums. We laugh it off and get on with life. (Moonves, for his part, told New York he “emphatically denies” the incident occurred.)
By now, Silent Generation aside, the question has occurred to you: Why does this woman seem so unfazed by all this horrible crap? Well, I am shallower than most people. I do not dwell on the past. I feel greater empathy for others than for myself. I do not try to control everything. But mainly, I think it is because I have done the thing no Indiana University football team has ever done in history — I have won a national championship: Miss Cheerleader USA. And they fly me to Washington, D.C., to meet President Lyndon Johnson in the Rose Garden. My photo (in a swimsuit!) plays on front pages across the nation. I get a big scholarship and appear on the TV quiz show To Tell the Truth.
This championship is, in fact, so important to the Indiana athletic department that they put me on billboards all over the state of Indiana — giant images of an ecstatic Jeanie escaped from her bottle, soaring above the stunned crowd in the Indiana University football stadium, a big i on my crimson sweater, cheerleading skirt aswirl, legs split like the atom.
And, well, I’ve never really come down … have I?
I’m up there, perpetually, eternally, forever in mid-leap, urging the crowd to never lose hope. I was a cheerleader in grade school. I was a cheerleader in high school. My sisters, Cande and Barbie, were cheerleaders; my brother, Tom, was a pole vaulter, so he jumped too. Today I open a letter for my column, I read the question, and what do I do? I start shouting and yelling and cheering at the correspondent to pick herself up and go on. And, by God! The correspondent does pick herself up and does go on! Because if she doesn’t, I keep yelling at her. And every now and then I shout at myself, “Get the hell up, E. Jean! You half-wit! My God! Get on with it!”
And many women my age just “get on with it” too. It is how we handle things: Chin up! Stop griping! We do not cast ourselves as victims because we do not see ourselves as victims. While the strategy has worked for me, I wish I hadn’t waited so long to say something about two of my Hideous Men.
Beauty contests are such a rage when I am growing up that my camp — a Girl Scout camp! — holds yearly pageants. So it happens that the first beauty contest I am nominated for is Miss Camp Ella J. Logan. (Later I’ll win Miss Indiana University, no doubt due to my “talent”: I take to the stage dressed as Edith Sitwell and perform a dramatic reading of Dick and Jane.)
There is no talent portion at camp, alas. We contestants walk up and down the dock; the judges, who’ve roared across the lake in a magnificent Chris-Craft and who are now seated in deck chairs, call my name.
I walk over and whisper: “What?”
They whisper: “You are Miss Camp Ella J. Logan.”
After they put the papier-mâché crown on my head, the cape on my shoulders, and give me the baton covered in Reynolds Wrap, Old Cam, No. 6 on the Most Hideous Men of My Life List, the waterfront director, takes me out in a boat and runs his hands under my shirt and up my shorts. He is breathing and moving his hand slowly and hotly, and I fight no battles in my head. My mind goes white. This is Cam. This is the man who has watched me grow from an 8-year-old Brownie Scout, and his notice is an honor. This is Cam, who teaches me to swim and dive and awards me the coveted White Cap! This is Cam, who continues to run his hand inside my shorts and under my blouse — even in the dining room during dinner, under the table, squeezing my thighs, shoving his fingers — saying, “You’re my girl. You’re my girl. You’re my girl,” and making me Girl Scout–promise “not to tell anyone.”
I am astonished by what I’m about to write: I keep laughing. He does this until I go home. I am 12.
My friends will be stunned to read this. My sisters and brother will be speechless. But Aly Raisman, the great Olympian gymnast, and the more than 150 young women who spoke out in court about Lawrence Nassar, the USA Gymnastics team doctor, will not be shocked. Nassar abused some of the young women in front of their own mothers. Nobody saw it.
And old Cam? He writes a book called The Girl Scout Man. It is listed in “rather remarkable” condition, though there is some “light foxing and some very modest yellowing of the pages,” on Abe Books, the rare-books dealer. Here is a shortened version of its description:
“This loving homage to Girl Scouting is a record of many of the experiences and incidents and occurrences spanning the over twenty-five years of dedicated service of Cam Parks, done mostly at Camp Ella J. Logan, near Fort Wayne, Indiana, on the shore of Dewart Lake. If you, Reader, are an alumnus of Logan … memories of time spent at this camp may well be sweeping over you right now.”
No thank you.
As a Scout, I returned to Camp Ella J. Logan year after year, becoming tall and womanly, receiving letters from boys with swak written on the backs of the envelopes, going on weeklong canoe trips, and completing my counselor-in-training program.
Cam I avoided. Never once did I speak to him or look at him again, but my brain does not avoid him. He and his maroon swim trunks may have been dead these last 40 years, but old Cam and the boat are the events — of all the events in my life — that somehow swim constantly back into my head. And it’s Cam who, when he dies at the age of 72 and the story starts going around that he was “suddenly dismissed” from coaching, causes me the most pain.
I could have spoken up! Maybe not when I was 12. But when I was 25. He died when I was 34. I might have stopped him.
[This is where the Donald Trump portion begins] Which brings me to the other rich boy. Before I discuss him, I must mention that there are two great handicaps to telling you what happened to me in Bergdorf’s: (a) The man I will be talking about denies it, as he has denied accusations of sexual misconduct made by at least 15 credible women, namely, Jessica Leeds, Kristin Anderson, Jill Harth, Cathy Heller, Temple Taggart McDowell, Karena Virginia, Melinda McGillivray, Rachel Crooks, Natasha Stoynoff, Jessica Drake, Ninni Laaksonen, Summer Zervos, Juliet Huddy, Alva Johnson, and Cassandra Searles. (Here’s what the White House said: “This is a completely false and unrealistic story surfacing 25 years after allegedly taking place and was created simply to make the President look bad.”) And (b) I run the risk of making him more popular by revealing what he did.
His admirers can’t get enough of hearing that he’s rich enough, lusty enough, and powerful enough to be sued by and to pay off every splashy porn star or Playboy Playmate who “comes forward,” so I can’t imagine how ecstatic the poor saps will be to hear their favorite Walking Phallus got it on with an old lady in the world’s most prestigious department store.
This is during the years I am doing a daily Ask E. Jean TV show for the cable station America’s Talking, a precursor to MSNBC launched by Roger Ailes (who, by the way, is No. 16 on my list).
Early one evening, as I am about to go out Bergdorf’s revolving door on 58th Street, and one of New York’s most famous men comes in the revolving door, or it could have been a regular door at that time, I can’t recall, and he says: “Hey, you’re that advice lady!”
And I say to No. 20 on the Most Hideous Men of My Life List: “Hey, you’re that real-estate tycoon!”
I am surprised at how good-looking he is. We’ve met once before, and perhaps it is the dusky light but he looks prettier than ever. This has to be in the fall of 1995 or the spring of 1996 because he’s garbed in a faultless topcoat and I’m wearing my black wool Donna Karan coatdress and high heels but not a coat.
“Come advise me,” says the man. “I gotta buy a present.”
“Oh!” I say, charmed. “For whom?”
“A girl,” he says.
“Don’t the assistants of your secretaries buy things like that?” I say.
“Not this one,” he says. Or perhaps he says, “Not this time.” I can’t recall. He is a big talker, and from the instant we collide, he yammers about himself like he’s Alexander the Great ready to loot Babylon.
As we are standing just inside the door, I point to the handbags. “How about—”
“No!” he says, making the face where he pulls up both lips like he’s balancing a spoon under his nose, and begins talking about how he once thought about buying Bergdorf ’s.
“Or … a hat!” I say enthusiastically, walking toward the handbags, which, at the period I’m telling you about — and Bergdorf’s has been redone two or three times since then — are mixed in with, and displayed next to, the hats. “She’ll love a hat! You can’t go wrong with a hat!”
I don’t remember what he says, but he comes striding along — greeting a Bergdorf sales attendant like he owns the joint and permitting a shopper to gape in awe at him — and goes right for a fur number.
“Please,” I say. “No woman would wear a dead animal on her head!”
What he replies I don’t recall, but I remember he coddles the fur hat like it’s a baby otter.
“How old is the lady in question?” I ask.
“How old are you?” replies the man, fondling the hat and looking at me like Louis Leakey carbon-dating a thighbone he’s found in Olduvai Gorge.
“I’m 52,” I tell him.
“You’re so old!” he says, laughing — he was around 50 himself — and it’s at about this point that he drops the hat, looks in the direction of the escalator, and says, “Lingerie!” Or he may have said “Underwear!” So we stroll to the escalator. I don’t remember anybody else greeting him or galloping up to talk to him, which indicates how very few people are in the store at the time.
I have no recollection where lingerie is in that era of Bergdorf’s, but it seems to me it is on a floor with the evening gowns and bathing suits, and when the man and I arrive — and my memory now is vivid — no one is present.
There are two or three dainty boxes and a lacy see-through bodysuit of lilac gray on the counter. The man snatches the bodysuit up and says: “Go try this on!”
“You try it on,” I say, laughing. “It’s your color.”
“Try it on, come on,” he says, throwing it at me.
“It goes with your eyes,” I say, laughing and throwing it back.
“You’re in good shape,” he says, holding the filmy thing up against me. “I wanna see how this looks.”
“But it’s your size,” I say, laughing and trying to slap him back with one of the boxes on the counter.
“Come on,” he says, taking my arm. “Let’s put this on.”
This is gonna be hilarious, I’m saying to myself — and as I write this, I am staggered by my stupidity. As we head to the dressing rooms, I’m laughing aloud and saying in my mind: I’m gonna make him put this thing on over his pants!
There are several facts about what happens next that are so odd I want to clear them up before I go any further:
Did I report it to the police?
No.
Did I tell anyone about it?
Yes. I told two close friends. The first, a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc., begged me to go to the police.
“He raped you,” she kept repeating when I called her. “He raped you. Go to the police! I’ll go with you. We’ll go together.”
My second friend is also a journalist, a New York anchorwoman. She grew very quiet when I told her, then she grasped both my hands in her own and said, “Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you.” (Two decades later, both still remember the incident clearly and confirmed their accounts to New York.)
Do I have photos or any visual evidence?
Bergdorf’s security cameras must have picked us up at the 58th Street entrance of the store. We would have been filmed on the ground floor in the bags-and-hats sections. Cameras also must have captured us going up the escalator and into the lingerie department. New York law at the time did not explicitly prohibit security cameras in dressing rooms to “prevent theft.” But even if it had been captured on tape, depending on the position of the camera, it would be very difficult to see the man unzipping his pants, because he was wearing a topcoat. The struggle might simply have read as “sexy.” The speculation is moot, anyway: The department store has confirmed that it no longer has tapes from that time.
Why were there no sales attendants in the lingerie department?
Bergdorf Goodman’s perfections are so well known — it is a store so noble, so clubby, so posh — that it is almost easier to accept the fact that I was attacked than the fact that, for a very brief period, there was no sales attendant in the lingerie department. Inconceivable is the word. Sometimes a person won’t find a sales attendant in Saks, it’s true; sometimes one has to look for a sales associate in Barneys, Bloomingdale’s, or even Tiffany’s; but 99 percent of the time, you will have an attendant in Bergdorf’s. All I can say is I did not, in this fleeting episode, see an attendant. And the other odd thing is that a dressing-room door was open. In Bergdorf’s dressing rooms, doors are usually locked until a client wants to try something on.
Why haven’t I “come forward” before now?
Receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the 15 women who’ve come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I am a coward.
So now I will tell you what happened:
The moment the dressing-room door is closed, he lunges at me, pushes me against the wall, hitting my head quite badly, and puts his mouth against my lips. I am so shocked I shove him back and start laughing again. He seizes both my arms and pushes me up against the wall a second time, and, as I become aware of how large he is, he holds me against the wall with his shoulder and jams his hand under my coat dress and pulls down my tights.
I am astonished by what I’m about to write: I keep laughing. The next moment, still wearing correct business attire, shirt, tie, suit jacket, overcoat, he opens the overcoat, unzips his pants, and, forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me. It turns into a colossal struggle. I am wearing a pair of sturdy black patent-leather four-inch Barneys high heels, which puts my height around six-one, and I try to stomp his foot. I try to push him off with my one free hand — for some reason, I keep holding my purse with the other — and I finally get a knee up high enough to push him out and off and I turn, open the door, and run out of the dressing room.
The whole episode lasts no more than three minutes. I do not believe he ejaculates. I don’t remember if any person or attendant is now in the lingerie department. I don’t remember if I run for the elevator or if I take the slow ride down on the escalator. As soon as I land on the main floor, I run through the store and out the door — I don’t recall which door — and find myself outside on Fifth Avenue.
And that was my last hideous man. The Donna Karan coatdress still hangs on the back of my closet door, unworn and unlaundered since that evening. And whether it’s my age, the fact that I haven’t met anyone fascinating enough over the past couple of decades to feel “the sap rising,” as Tom Wolfe put it, or if it’s the blot of the real-estate tycoon, I can’t say. But I have never had sex with anybody ever again.
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2019.04.18 00:52 kdog720 [Question] Why do I have to rejailbreak like 3 times per day, and every morning?

It seems like I put my phone in my pocket and pull it out a couple hours later and I’m not jailbroken anymore. Also I wake up every morning and have to rejailbreak too. Why is this? I’m not crashing or anything to my knowledge.
I’m using unc0ver b49 on 12.1.2
EDIT: I’m using an iPhone X
Tweak List: 3G Unrestrictor 5 (iOS 10/9/8/7): 5.9.10 7-zip (POSIX): 16.02-1 AdBlock for YouTube: 1.0.7 adv-cmds: 119-1 Anilaunch: 1.1.8 Animoji 12.2: 1.0-30 Aperturize: 1.0.5 AppList: 1.5.14 AppSync Unified: 32.0 APT (apt-key): 1.4.9-1 APT 1.4 Strict (libapt-pkg): 1.4.9-1 APT Command Line: 1:0-2 APT Strict (lib): 1.4.9-2 APT Strict: 1.4.9-1 Artsy: 1.2 Assuan: 2.5.1-1 AudioSnapshotServer: 1.0.0 AutoUnlockX: 1.0.2 BadgeMeNot: 1.0 Barmoji: 1.3.2 Base Structure: 1-5 BatteryLife: 1.7.0 Berkeley DB: 6.2.32-1 BetterCCXI: 1.4.8 BigBoss Icon Set: 1.0 BlurryBadges: 1.1 Bourne-Again SHell: 5.0.3-1 bzip2: 1.0.6-1 CA Certs: 0.0.2 CallBar XS: 2.1-22 Carrierizer: 1.0.2 CCModules: 1.3-3 CCSupport: 1.2-3 CCVPN: 1.0 Cephei: 1.12 CertRemainTime: 2.3.8 CFXPreferences: 1.0 ChargeAnimations: 2.0 ChromaHomeBarX: 0.2 ClearBadges3DTouch10: 1.0.1 Core Utilities (/bin): 8.30-3 Core Utilities: 8.30-2 CrashReporter: 1.16.0-1 cURL: 7.62.0-1 Cydia Installer: 1.1.32~b12 Cydia Substrate: 0.9.7032 Cydia Translations: 1.1.32~b1 Cylinder: 1.0.6 DarkMessages (iOS 10): 1.2.0-1 Darwin Tools: 1-6 DateUnderTimeX: 1.1-1 Debian Packager: 1.18.25-11 Debian Utilities: 4.8.6-1 Diff Utilities: 3.6-1 Disconnected: 1.0 diskdev-cmds: 593.221.1-1 Don't Stop The Party Lite: 0.0.1 DontKillMyMusic: 1.2.0 Eclipse 12 (iOS 12): 6.0.4-7 Essential: 0-1 EVELYN's Repo Icons: 1.0-3 file: 5.35-2 Filza File Manager: 3.6.4 Find Utilities: 4.6.0-2 Flame: 1.3 Flipswitch: 1.0.15 FloatingDock: 1.5 Gawk: 4.2.1-1 gettext: 0.19.8-1 GNU Cryptography: 1.8.3-1 GNU Multiple Precision Arithmetic Library: 6.1.2-1 GnuPG Errors: 1.32-1 GnuPG: 2.2.11-2 GnuTLS: 3.5.19-1 grep: 3.1-1 gzip: 1.9-1 HapticFeedback: 1.2-1 Harpy: 1.0.3 HuddyX: 1.2 iCleaner Pro: 7.7.2 IconSupport: 1.11.1 IGOLED: 1.0.0 inetutils: 1.9.4-2 IOKit Tools: 76-1 iOS Firmware: 12.1.2 iPhone Firmware (/sbin): 0-1 Jailbreak Resources: 1.0~b11.5 Jellyfish: 1.1.2 KarenLocalizer: 1.0.4 KarenPrefs: 1.4 KSBA: 1.3.5-1 LetMeBlock: 0.0.1 libbulletin: 0.1-145 libcolorpicker: 1.6-1 libcrashreport: 1.1.0-1 libCSColorPicker: 1.0 Libellus: 4.2 libevent: 2.1.8-2 libidn2: 6.1.2-1 libimagepicker: 1.0.2 libnepeta: 0.1.1 libnghttp2: 1.32.0-3 libpackageinfo: 1.1.0.1-1 libplist: 2.0.0-2 libSparkAppList: 1.0.3 libssh2: 1.8.0-2 libsymbolicate: 1.9.0-1 libtasn1: 4.13-1 libunistring: 0.9.10-1 Limneosos: 1.1.2 Link Identity Editor: 2:2.1.1+elucubratus2 LocalIAPStore: 1.4-2 LockscreenSuite: 1.0.4-8 Lotus: 1.0 LZ4: 1.7.5-1 LZMA Utils: 2:4.32.7-2 MitsuhaXI: 0.5.5 Modulus: 1.0.2 MTerminal: 1.4-6 Nettle: 3.4-2 Network Commands: 543-1 New Curses: 5.9-1 New Curses: 6.1-1 New GNU Portable Threads: 1.6-1 NewGridSwitcher: 1.1.0 NGXPlay11: 2.1-3 NoSub (PalBreak w/ options): 1.3 Notchification: 1.4.2 Notifica: 0.2.7 NotificationTester: 1.3.3.2 NumberPad: 1.1 OpenSSL 1.0 Libraries: 1.0.2r-1 Organic Emoji Scrubber: 1.2 p11-kit: 0.23.12-1 PauseOnMute: 1.2 PowerSelector (iOS 11 & 12): 1.1-7 PreferenceLoader: 2.2.3-3 PreferenceOrganizer 2: 4.0.5 PrefixUI: 1.1 Profile Directory: 0-1 readline: 8.0-1 RealCC: 1.0.1 repo support: 2.2 ReProvision: 0.4.2 RocketBootstrap: 1.0.6 RomanPasscode: 2.1 sed: 4.5-1 shell-cmds: 118-8 ShieldXI: 1.0.1 Signing Certificate: 0.0.1 SimpleLSiOS: 1.5.1 SmartLPM: 1.3.0-1 SmartRotate: 1.3.1 SmoothCursor: 1.1.2 SnowBoard: 1.1.6 SpringPlus11: 1.2 Substrate Safe Mode: 0.9.6001.1 SugarCane: 1.0.0 SwipeForMore: 1.1.7 System Memory Reset Fix: 1.0 system-cmds: 790.30.1-2 Tape Archive: 1.30-2 TechSupport Framework: 1.5.0.1-1 Textyle: 1.1 Trust Cache Injector: 0.4~b5 Tweak Count 2: 1.0.1 tweakCompatible: 0.1.5 UIKit Tools: 1.1.13-5 unrar: 5.6.4-1 unzip: 6.0-1 XZ Utils: 5.2.4-4 zip: 2.32-1
Rocket bootstrap and all its dependencies are installed but disabled using iCleaner
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2018.12.19 04:55 Normaani_Bucking I'm not a fan of Cuddy on rewatch.

I was sad when Huddy broke up on my first watch but she was quite b****y on rewatch especially mid season 7. She played with him knowing he was screwed up and tried to change him. I hate it when people do that. If you're going to date/marry someone don't try to change the core of who they are atleast not overnight. I love House as screwed up as he was and wouldn't suddenly expect him to be this emotionally supportive guy that he never was. You can get a friend for that. And he's had a drug problem. Let's not act like he can suddenly get over that after 1 year therapy and never battle with it ever again especially not when people are constantly pressuring him to be something he ain't.
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2018.10.24 16:10 jacktherambler Into the Black: Chapter 5

Previously
I have always been Death.
There are theories in abundance of what Death is, some cosmic force or just the lack of life.
“You don’t remember anything before you’re born, that’s what Death is!”
Sure. I guess in a very basic way.
Is there an “after”? That’s for me to know and everything that lives to find out.
If you go back to the beginning of humanity - which isn’t the beginning of time, no matter how self-absorbed mortals are - Death always existed. I always existed. I remember walking the face of Earth when it was so young, so beautiful. Then mankind came along.
That’s where things get interesting. I may have always existed but my siblings did not. The four horsemen is some concocted drivel that humans relate to, they understand that, but that’s not how it works.
We don’t actually crave Armageddon or anything. War might want things to be a little bit more violent and Famine wants everyone to have unending need, but that doesn’t mean we want life to be snuffed out. Quite the opposite, personally I am rather fond of life. And I take my job of moving them along quite seriously.
The issue that really took root was the speed that humans procreated. Naughty creatures, them. They went forth and multiplied and my job started to get very difficult, especially when War and Famine started kicking around. Pestilence, not so much, but she’s unique.
War didn’t need aide-de-camps or anything, she had endless supplies of mortals that embraced their murder-y sides. Napoleon, Hitler, Caesar, Cortes, The American Empire. Plenty of violence to go around. Famine was similar. Every mortal has a need. A deep, dark desire that they really truly seek above all else. Some spend their entire, and rather short, lives chasing anything but that need. They want to smother it from shame or fear. Some embrace it. Famine, she doesn’t need help encouraging it. A woman who wants wealth will always be easy to convince she does not have enough. A man that wants to be adored will do anything for one more cheer, just one more taste.
Me? Death became a mortal industry. There were so many and I can be everywhere but they deserved a little better. So, Reapers.
Reapers aren’t Death. Breaks the standard I suppose, but a Reaper isn’t me and I’m not a Reaper.
Reapers are given some gifts. Extended life, until they decide they no longer wish to serve under the dark wings of Death. The Sight that allows them to see mortal souls in need of passage. And a limited ability to move souls from the mortal plane to…well the mystery beyond.
Reapers are tools of Death. Functional, useful, helpful.
Reapers are chosen, given the abilities. That, that is where the problem is.
“I didn’t pick you.” I say to Rence, ignoring the concerned stares from the rest of the crew. Halloran and Erskin are both slowly letting their hands drop to their weapons, trying to look as natural as possible. Not that they could kill a Reaper.
Larkin, sitting beside Rence, eases his butt up and moves a few inches away in less than stealthy fashion. Rence just stands there though, arms crossed and an unbothered look plastered on his face. Perfectly calm.
“Nope. Told you, it was some chick and I’ve never seen her since.”
“War?” He shakes his head at my question. There’s only a few beings with the power to assign a Reaper in the absence of Death. My siblings among them.
“Nope. Wasn’t her. Wasn’t Famine either, she gives me the creeps. Don’t know about Pestilence, haven’t ever met her.”
“It wasn’t her.” I say. I know that much at least. I know it wasn’t her. It would never be her.
That leaves us with a mystery and a number of suspects.
“I hate to break up this incredibly strange moment but we have a priority signal coming through. Science ship.” Sana interrupts, having somehow accepted that Rence is a Reaper and moving on from it. Or just choosing not to handle it just now.
“That be odd.” Kelly puts his Captain’s hat on and focuses on the new issue at hand. “It not be a SOS, it be a call for…for you.”
Of course it’s for me. Of course. Why wouldn’t it be.
“Since our last meeting went so well, we might as well take this one too. Popular guy, aren’t you.”
“Are we not going to deal with the Reaper on the ship? What does that even mean?!” Huddy shouts, interrupting Sana’s sarcasm. We’re starting to spiral. Crew’s falling apart. Rence finds it all very amusing in his own way. I don’t.
“Wait. Science ship?” I ask.
Kelly and Sana both nod. Huddy looks like he might have an aneurysm but I know he won’t, I can tell when I’m coming. One problem at a time, except for the part where they just keep coming at me. Though, I’m not sure this ship is a problem.
“Let’s go meet them.”
Sana looks to Kelly, I apparently forgot that he’s the Captain of this little ship in my excitement. He shrugs.
We’re off to meet someone special.
And I’m a little excited.
 
We dock with the science vessel a ridiculously short six hours later. All the vastness of space and somehow folks just keep finding me, a tiny little speck in all of it. The ship is sleek and small, maybe three hundred meters from nose to tail.
I learned the lingo from Bhatt, since Huddy retreated to his cabin and refuses to come out until we address the Reaper situation. That’s a fair point but I’m hoping we are about to. If the person that I think is on the ship is indeed on the ship. Our delightful little Comos isn’t as sleek as the science ship, the Plaga. Our doors are mottled gray steel, theirs are pristine and white. Our open with all the clunkiness of an elephant in desperate need of oiling, if elephants need to be oiled. If they even exist still. Theirs whooshes and I love it.
There’s just three of us to meet them at the docking tube. Me, Kelly, and Warder.
“The three musketeers.” I mutter it. No one laughs and I realize that my references are thousands of years out of date. Warder leans over, I assume to tell me to stop it.
“Not what Dumas had in mind.”
I bark a laugh and she winks, Kelly rubs the bridge of his nose with a thick thumb and I catch pieces that are unflattering about the two of us. Their door does the whoosh and there are two figures standing there. One in a white lab coat and the other in a mechanics jumpsuit.
She is severe looking, hawkish some might say. Her blond hair is streaked with gray and pulled back tight in a practical bun. There are wrinkles under her bright green eyes that don’t miss a thing. Her arms are crossed across her chest and she has one eyebrow raised in a semi-permanent look of disinterest in the world around her.
“Hey Pea.” I say.
The severe woman doesn’t move. A small head of messy brown hair pokes out from behind her instead, grinning that grin that I can’t help but love. She looks eleven but she’s most certainly not that young, not by a long shot. She shoots out from behind the severe woman and up into my arms like a rocket, squealing as I pick her up and spin her around. I hold her up and look at her, making my face as serious as possible.
“You lose that tooth yet?”
She opens her mouth and tongues at the eternally loose one, flopping it back and forth. Then she dissolves into giggles.
“I’ve missed you Pea.” I put her back down and ignore the confused stares from my side of the airlock. The other side must have expected this. I know the mechanic type did.
“Still going by Medicus?” I ask him, offering a hand. He takes it in his calloused one, the outfit and demeanor hide the sharpest mind shy of Pea that I’ve ever known.
“Nah, Max now. Easier.”
“Good to see you.”
“You too, been a while.”
“Alright, I be wanting some answers.” Kelly finally interrupts the reunion. I feel a little bad, leaving them out like that.
“Ah.” I say. “Well this is Max, formerly Medicus, almost as old as I am. Guardian to my little sister, Pea.”
Pea sticks out her hand and grins at Kelly and Warder, lopsidedly.
“You can call me Pea, if you’re his friends. Most everyone else calls me Pestilence.”
Warder’s eyes might explode, Kelly sucks in his breath, and they carefully take her hand in turn. She has that effect on people, even more than War or Famine. They’re scary and intimidating but Pea, she’s downright horrific. And in such an adorable package too.
“Come, come see what we’ve been doing!” She takes my hand and drags me into the science ship. I look back to see Kelly and Warder follow carefully, cautiously, slowly. Max and the severe scientist bring up the rear of the group.
Pea is talking animatedly about something or other and I’m half listening.
Because Rence said some chick offered him the job.
If it had been Pea…well he’d have said a kid.
So that doesn’t really solve the mystery of our dear Reaper or answer any questions.
It just creates more.
“You’re not paying attention.” Pea is watching me, we’ve stopped moving.
She can be incredibly serious when she wants to be, she might look like a little kid but she’s far from it. She’s the creator and guardian of the most dangerous diseases and plagues known to mankind and some that aren’t. She’s also the one sibling I have never hated, especially since she never helped put me in a box that ended up floating in space.
“Pea. What’s going on out here? I saw War and she was being coy, haven’t heard from Fanny yet.”
“You don’t know?” She takes my hand and squeezes it.
“Know what? All I know is I got busted out of that stupid box, pulled onto a salvage ship, dragged before some human council of military and medical types, then sent on a mission to find Earth.”
Pea laughs. I’ve never heard her laugh like it before.
“Earth isn’t missing you idiot.”
“Come again?”
She takes my hand again and pulls me down the pristine hallway, past more lab coats, still laughing. Warder and Kelly behind me are opening and closing their mouths, like fish out of water, shocked by the news.
Pea takes us to a room ringed with screens that feed her data in constant scrolling text and numerical feeds. There are skeletal frameworks of creatures I don’t recognize and humans that I do recognize. Pea stands on a small pedestal and suddenly looks her age, a sombre and serious face as she dances her fingers through the air and pulls up information for my pleasure.
The room becomes a model of the solar system, with us as bright blue dots on our journey to the place that’s pulling me. There are planets and a strange empty gap where Earth should have been.
“I’m sorry big brother but I have to talk to them for a second. Warder? Was it? And…Kelly? If I’m not mistaken. Good immune systems, the two of you. Though you should really stop drinking, or at least less. It'll do wonders for you, I promise.”
They just nod. Pea doesn’t forget anything that she researches and she researches everything.
“You humans think of me as some green goo dripping monster bringing wave upon wave of disease and plague upon you. You treat me so horribly because you remember the Black Death and you remember Malaria, Spanish Fever, the flu. You don’t have to remember the Jupiter Incident, I did everything I could to stop that one, because it was so recent. You all hate me.”
She sticks out her bottom lip for a second, pulling up screen after screen for them to watch.
“What you don’t know is that I am not the Plague Doctor coming to bring you illness. Do you know who taught you fools to wash yourselves? About bacteria? Do you? Pasteur? Leeuwenhoek? Semmelweis? You humans are so ingenious when you want to be but you always need a little tiny push. I am the push.” She displays Earth. Big, beautiful, blue and green Earth.
“It’s not gone. It never was. Humans think they are so smart, so powerful, so capable. Can you imagine!”
I laugh with her, Max does as well. The severe scientist doesn’t, neither does Warder or Kelly. Some jokes are only funny among those who live forever. Or close to it.
“It never moved. No, humanity was a disease so we treated it. War wanted to eliminate the virus, of course. Famine wanted to take a different approach, to no one’s surprise. Wanted to starve the virus out. He was missing. I didn’t want either of their options and freeing him wasn't on the table. Not to mention that I don’t subscribe to destroying the host to save it. That’s stupid.”
“So…where is it?”
She grins at all of us. Cheeky.
“Right where you left it, idiots. Recovering.”
That’s why she’s so cheeky. She thinks she’s the smartest one in the room. She is. She always is. Pea loves diseases and plagues but she also loves the people that carry them. Good kid, that immortal little sister of mine.
Warder speaks.
“Wait, wait. Let’s say it is-”
“It is.”
“-OK, let’s say it is. Where is he taking us?”
Oh, she asking about me.
“That’s actually a good question.” I say to Pea. “I can feel a lot of death out there, somewhere. Millions of them, calling from very far away. Maybe billions of them.”
I’ve never seen Pea confused, or so rarely I don’t really recognize the look that crosses her face. I’ve seen her come across problems she can’t wait to solve and that isn’t what she looked like. I’ve seen her stumped by horrendous diseases that rampage ahead of her and the frustration she feels and that wasn’t it either.
She’s confused. For real.
“Are you sure? You’ve been gone a while, could you just be rusty?”
“Probably, but it’s not that.”
“Curious. We can ask Her.” Pea says, emphasizing the pronoun. I know who she means.
“No. Absolutely not.”
“We should. She might know.” Pea says, giving me a look of disappointment over my reticence to see Her. I know it’s immature but I don’t want to see Her. I hate seeing Her. It makes me crazy. Loopy. Not myself. I’m supposed to be a bastion of movement of souls and She messes me up.
“I don’t care if She might know, I don’t want to see Her.”
“She’s on Earth, helping with the recovery. She’d be so happy to see you again. You should have seen how hard She fought when she found out what War and Famine did. We should see Her.”
“Who be she talking about?” Kelly is rubbing the bridge of his nose again, clearly a headache building over ever bothering to open up my box. Warder nods her own curiosity, tapping the palm of her hand against her upper thigh in a show of twitchiness that’s unlike her.
“It doesn’t matter who she’s talking about!” I raise my voice and point a finger at Pea. She sticks her tongue out at it. “We’re not going to see Her!”
Pea rolls her eyes and ignores me, clearly having no respect for her big brother, and plows ahead.
“Logic, little mortals. If he’s Death then…She would be…” She rolls her hands, offering both of them the chance to step in and take a nice, big, fat guess at who She is.
“Holy shit.” Warder breathes out.
“Aha! She figured it out!”
“Pea, please. I don’t want to see Her.” I hear the pleading creep into my voice and I hate it. I have never once pleaded with my baby sister. Not once.
“For the two of us, you’re the bigger baby.” She says. That stings a bit.
“Stop the ride, I want to get off.” Warder says, no longer tapping her hand. “I’m done. I’m done meeting horsemen, I’m done meeting whatever the fuck you all are. I’m done!”
Pea is off her pedestal in a flash, little hands wrapped around Warder’s and her face nothing but kindness.
“It’s a lot to take in, I know. It’s not easy. But you’re here for a reason, right? What are the odds otherwise? Besides, the best place to be is with us.”
Warder takes a deep breath and nods. I don’t add that there’s no going back. Not now, we’re about to step into a grand scheme between the personified facets of the greatest powers of the mortal world.
“Damn it.” I say. It gets me a lot of startled looks, I rub my face and wish there was another way but there isn’t. There just isn’t.
“We’re going to see Her.” Pea says, with another lopsided grin. She loves seeing Her. Everyone but me loves seeing Her.
“Yeah. Let’s go see Life."
Can Death get a headache? Cause it feels like I can. I close my eyes and will it away without success.
"Let's go see mom."
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2018.01.27 17:44 noiserr PCPer's response

originally posted by: u/inappropriatecontext (Ryan Shrout)
(Had to repost as Reddit picked a thumbnail from a CNN story as the correct image for this post. Sorry! This link here to our PCPer logo is to prevent mobile apps from grabbing the CNN link still.)
Hi hardware fans. It's been an eventful couple of days in the offices and home for me (and Allyn). A video from YouTube channel AdoredTV was posted late Thursday night (US eastern time) that directly attacked our credibility, which has been taken down, reposted, and taken down again. In all honesty, we tend to have a policy of not responding to verbal accusations online, because if we did, that's all anyone that writes reviews would ever do.
This one was more impactful though. We were called out directly by name (me and Allyn) and some very specific statements were made against our reviews on pcper.com and our new company at shroutreseach.com.
Most importantly from my point of view was that I woke up on Friday morning to find that I had been sent pictures of my home (and my office) from Google Maps along with my address from random viewers of this video. Obviously when you start to get into areas of personal and family safety, things get ratcheted up quite dramatically. With recent events (a swatting resulting in a death on Dec 30th) showing that sometimes crazies on the internet can in fact do crazy things when incited, I was legitimately worried about my wife and daughter.
Jim at AdoredTV initially agreed to take the video down in an email exchange after I expressed those safety concerns. But after he didn't think I addressed all the points his video accusations covered in the response that I sent him (that will be included below), he re-posted it. After some more emails back and forth, he took the video back down as of Saturday morning.
At this point, I wanted to make sure that the response to his video that I sent him was public, so that the readers and viewers of both of our content can make their own decision.
In the end, I agreed to make edits to the FreeSync story/video that he brought up. These are reasonable points from him that would have simply required an email or phone call to address at the outset. We also added a disclosure statement to the end of our Intel 900P review in regards to Shrout Research. My statement of honesty in our review remains, but in order to be more transparent, the disclosure was added.
It's worth noting that not 48 hours before the original posting of AdoredTVs video, our team had been debating not about putting disclosures on the stories, but what the exact wording of them would be. This was prompted by a question sent in to our mailbag series our desire to be honest about things. This is still going to happen, but we are finalizing what that global statement will be.
I do think its important to note that despite the intent to paint it as such, there really are no black and white answers to this. Some will say that I should release financial statements. Some will say this is more than enough. I anticipate that he will still have some issues with our process, as will others. I accept that. We will continue to do what we think is best.
You'll find below a complete copy of an email exchange between Jim at AdoredTV and myself. It's a long read, one that I think is important in its entirety for those concerned about these allegations, but I've also prepared this more succinct list of our responses to the major issues.
(Times in the email reference a "current time" of about 10pm ET. Copy and paste is funny in Gmail.)
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 9:46 AM (12 hours ago)
to jim Do you have time to chat quickly today? Saw the video, I have lots of questions, many concerns, but most importantly a request. I can call you direct or on Skype, etc.
Jim P <*********> 12:38 PM (9 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan.
Sorry I'm out all weekend and I'm actually not in my own place right now (I'm in Scotland but live in Sweden) and getting peace and quiet isn't very easy anyway. I might be available to talk a bit on Monday but if you have a request that needs dealing with sooner, feel free to shoot it to me and obviously I'll listen.
Regards,
  • Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:18 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Jim,
I'm a little disappointed that you would be willing to post a video with those kinds of accusations without contacting me for input but unwilling to spend 15 minutes on the phone or Skype with me to address it. Although not your intent, we are at the point now of viewers of your content reaching out to me with pictures of my house on Google Maps with my address, as well as my office. Obviously with the recent occurrences in the world, and as the father of a two year old, this is something we take exceedingly seriously. I'm worried that your video and comments, though I disagree with almost all of them, are going to be used to cause more harm than you had intended.
I have a list of corrections and inaccuracies, as well as comments surround some of your concerns, that I am preparing. But I would greatly appreciate some assistance in controlling this situation.
AdoredTV 1:29 PM (8 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan,
I just got back from the dentist and I'm currently at my sister's house in Scotland. It's dinner time here also. Tomorrow we celebrate my sisters birthday at another venue. What do you want me to do to help? Should I unlist the video? I'm willing to do that for now though it'll blow over in a couple of days anyway. Be aware that if I don't like your response to my points in the video, I wasn't joking when I said I left out more than I put in. I will not be manipulated, consider my offer to unlist the video the final chance of avoiding a real escalation. Regards,
Jim
Jim P 1:32 PM (8 hours ago)
to me Not sure if my previous response got through, resending...
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:42 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Jim,
I appreciate the offer to make the video unlisted. However, because the video will still be viewable from any number of sources with the URL, I think making it private would be more appropriate.
I plan to send you my responses and comments in private, or on a call, in order to address your questions and concerns in a way that does not endanger anyone's family. I understand that you may choose to take these emails public, and that is fine as I am not trying to hide anything. This can be an "on the record conversation" but the goal is to discuss in private, to understand each others points, without putting anyone else at risk.
Jim P 1:51 PM (8 hours ago)
to me I will make the video private, for now. And I will also write a tweet.
We'll talk later.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:51 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Thank you for that. I will follow up with my comments today.
AdoredTV 5:12 PM (4 hours ago)
to me It's rapidly approaching end of day in Kentucky, Ryan. One more hour then the video goes public again. Cheers,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 5:37 PM (4 hours ago)
to AdoredTV Hi Jim,
I saw your video posted on Jan 25th about me, Allyn Malventano, PC Perspective, and Shrout Research. While I think your intentions are earnest, I have some serious concerns about the accusations that are made and the facts of your story.
First, I think it is worth noting again that creating this kind of content without requesting input from the accused seems incredibly inflammatory and unfair. As you point out the code of ethics of journalism many times in your video, there are multiple references to “right to reply” that should exist during or at the same time. This opportunity was not given to us.
Second, the impact of your commentary, true or not, has the potential to cause harm to me, my team, and my family. Having already received pictures of my home and my address from viewers of your video, and with the recent events that have occurred around the world, I am now genuinely concerned about the safety of my family. Also in that code of ethics is a section on humanity: “Journalists should do no harm. What we publish or broadcast may be hurtful, but we should be aware of the impact of our words and images on the lives of others.”
The beginning of your accusations of bias on PC Perspective starts with our article on the first FreeSync monitors from 2015. The crux of your argument is that our team, including Allyn and myself, determined that FreeSync was the cause of the ghosting we saw on the display, though others indicated it was not a result of FreeSync, but rather the panel or integration itself. Our assertion at the time would have been that because FreeSync was the “certification brand” of this display, that in the end, regardless of the root technical cause, AMD and the FreeSync team were ultimately responsible. Our original story even details our inability to nail down the root cause of the problem.
*The question now is: why is this happening and does it have anything to do with G-Sync or FreeSync? NVIDIA has stated on a few occasions that there is more that goes into a VRR monitor than simply integrated vBlank extensions and have pointed to instances like this as an example as to why. Modern monitors are often tuned to a specific refresh rate – 144 Hz, 120 Hz, 60 Hz, etc. – and the power delivery to pixels is built to reduce ghosting and image defects. But in a situation where the refresh rate can literally be ANY rate, as we get with VRR displays, the LCD will very often be in these non-tuned refresh rates. NVIDIA claims its G-Sync module is tuned for each display to prevent ghosting by change the amount of voltage going to pixels at different refresh rates, allowing pixels to untwist and retwist at different rates.
It’s impossible now to know if that is the cause for the difference seen above. But with the ROG Swift and BenQ XL2730Z sharing the same 144 Hz TN panel specifications, there is obviously something different about the integration. It could be panel technology, it could be VRR technology or it could be settings in the monitor itself. We will be diving more into the issue as we spend more time with different FreeSync models.
For its part, AMD says that ghosting is an issue it is hoping to lessen on FreeSync monitors by helping partners pick the right components (Tcon, scalars, etc.) and to drive a “fast evolution” in this area.
Source: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync-*
You then bring up the fact that after we did discover that a firmware fix occurred (after our review), we posted a completely new article four months after our review recognizing the changes and improvements. There is a fair point to be made that we should have gone back to the original story and updated it with links to the new story. However, by doing a follow-up story and posting it in the same channels as the original (main site, video, Twitter, etc.) we believe we did due diligence here.
*In an industry that constantly changing with new hardware reviews, firmware updates, and even software and driver changes, keeping up with it is difficult. Extremely difficult. We will continue to find ways to do it better.
Any claims we made in comments or forums that panels in the competing G-Sync and FreeSync monitors were identical are false, and our error. But in our originally story, where articles are edited and curated, we state clearly that they shared the same “specifications”:
It’s impossible now to know if that is the cause for the difference seen above. But with the ROG Swift and BenQ XL2730Z sharing the same 144 Hz TN panel specifications, there is obviously something different about the integration.
Source: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync-*
Should comments and forum posts have been more accurate? Yes.
You also mention our frequent streams with NVIDIA’s Tom Petersen as a source bias in our content. While we definitely have hosted Tom in our offices many times, the invite has always been open for any vendor we work with to co-host a live stream to talk to our audience. AMD has taken us up on these offers on seven specific instances:
· [https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Live-Review-Recap-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-]Edition(https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Live-Review-Recap-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-Edition)
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-Interview-AMDs-Richard-Huddy-June-17th-4pm-ET-1pm-PT
· https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-Live-Stream-and-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-Radeon-RX-480-Live-Stream-Raja-Koduri
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-Discussion-and-RX-480-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-Discussion-and-RX-580-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-adds-game-overlay-mobile-app-wider-API-support
We probably have done more interviews with Tom than with AMD or any other vendor, but this is not indicative of anything other than NVIDIA’s desire to communicate with our audience slightly more frequently.
Next, you discuss the RX 480 power issue and indicate that PC Perspective’s stories were inflammatory and without merit. I would point out that not only did AMD acknowledge and fix the issue, but we were not the first media outlet to show the problem. Tom’s Hardware actually reported the problem first, and we linked to them in our first story on the topic. We worked with AMD to supply them with our data as we got it, to solicit input before, after, and during the story writing.
Another point brought up in your video is that PC Perspective appears to be willing to work behind the scenes with some companies to help fix problems and potential issues, but not with AMD. That is factually incorrect. We have worked with AMD in many instances, providing information before product releases, to help them fix problems.
Examples include our Frame Rating / FCAT testing, where we shared data, opinions, and insights with AMD months before the release of the first public story. On the Ryzen latency “ping test” we also sent information to AMD before publication to ask for input and feedback. When Ryzen motherboards were having significant issues at launch we worked with them and partners on updates and BIOS improvements in the background before reviewing those products. The facts are that we work with every company on the same level.
On the issue of AMD using an Amazon.com link that included our affiliate code, the first time I was aware of that was when the link and screenshot Anandtech’s Ryan Smith tweet was sent out. I never had any conversation with anyone at AMD about including it, or why it was there even after the fact. It was not something we asked for, expected, or benefitted from. A search of our Amazon.com affiliate data from July through today shows exactly zero Vega Frontier Edition cards sold on our account, from links on our articles or from AMD’s website.
Now let’s address the Shrout Research side of your story. Shrout Research was started in October of 2016 to allow us to offer services that we were being asked for from companies already, but separated from the PC Perspective website. It is probably fair to say that we have not been as open as we could or should have been about how this works.
But it is crucial to recognize that were not hiding this company or its relationship to me. The company and my position there is listed on my Twitter profile. We often link to ShroutResearch.com in stories posted on pcper.com. We have discussed Shrout Research on the podcast. I have answered questions about the company in mailbags from user-submitted questions. It is listed in my pcper.com profile page. Most (probably all) stories posted on MarketWatch or similar sites list my relationship to both companies. We link to the Shrout Research white papers (including the 900P paper) in some PC Perspective stories.
To address specific problems you have noted, I’ll start with the 900P paper and review. You claim that our test suite for the 900P review on PC Perspective was created for the Intel work done with Shrout Research. This is not true. The first review to use Allyn’s Latency Percentile performance testing methodology was with the launch of the Samsung 960 EVO in November of 2016 and research of this new testing process was first shown with the 950 PRO review in October of 2015. The 900P review was using this same testing method.
Furthermore, the testing that was showcased in the Shrout Research 900P white paper and the review differ greatly. You assert that the review on PC Perspective is simply a copy of the testing and work done on the research side, however looking at the paper and the review shows that isn’t the case. Benchmarks and analysis of applications like AS-SSD, CrystalDiskMark, Anvil, Photo Mechanic, and Houdini are in the paper, but were not used in the review. The data presented in the review is based on Allyn’s custom testing capabilities, of which only two small results are part of the white paper.
The testing for Shrout Research and PC Perspective testing of the 900P was done on different systems as well. The review data was gathered on our standard PCPer storage testing platform and the Shrout Research data was gathered on a platform that Intel specifically requested we configure. The review on PCPer used retail drives, the testing for Shrout Research was using engineering samples. Even more, the performance of the data results that do overlap are actually LOWER in the review on PC Perspective as they were tested on a different platform than the one used on the white paper. The results on PC Perspective and Shrout Research are not copies.
The concern over using hardware and devices received through Shrout Research arrangements for the review on PC Perspective is valid. Honestly, we didn’t see the harm (at the time) to include the second capacity of the 900P in our review as it presented more information to the reader. Was this unfair to others in the media? Probably. Have we seen numerous other exclusives come to websites (including us) over the years that weren’t fair to the media? Yes. Are samples often sent out differently from site to site? Absolutely. See the RX Vega launch most recently and many storage reviews that send different capacities and sets to reviewers.
If you follow PC Perspective at all, you know that we were going to publish a review on PC Perspective of the 900P regardless of the existence of the white paper or our arrangements with Intel. And our opinion of the product would not be have been swayed. Our agreement with Intel was to vet and evaluate the 900P so it could get an idea of how the device stood in the market and how it might be received in the public. The white paper was only to be written if Intel thought the results from our testing were positive in their eyes, however the fee Shrout Research was paid was the same regardless of whether or not the paper was produced.
Shrout Research currently works the biggest, and most competitive, companies in the high-tech world, including Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Qualcomm, and Arm. We have done similar work for others on this list, in particular AMD. We have done evaluation of hardware prior to media and public device availability, to advise and showcase the performance as our team sees it. In those cases with AMD, which began in March of 2017, AMD used the reports internally and decided to not request a public paper from Shrout Research.
If any of these companies saw me, or Shrout Research, or anyone on our team as unreliable or capable of bias, they would have no reason to work with me, especially on the Shrout Research side. Instead, the 18+ years of work that I have under me and the positive results I have produced in terms of relevant, honest, and useful content leads them to partner with us to help make their products, messaging, and companies better.
As I said at the beginning, nothing about Shrout Research is hidden or was attempted to be secretive. Should we have been more explicit in some disclosures? Yes, clearly. Should we have been stricter in how product was shared between the two entities? Probably. It’s something we had honestly discussed just this past week, and this story further necessitates the need for it.
At the end of the day, the trust of the reader and the companies that work with us is paramount and the only thing that keeps us going. There will always be some individuals that don’t like us or have insurmountable distrust of us for some reason; it’s been that way for literally the last 18 years of my life. But I know that we attempt to treat every company equally, treat every product equally, and every situation equally.
Many people feel a sense of distrust around paid advertising on hardware sites. I obviously disagree that running ads for a company inherently means you are going to be biased towards them, and I have built and sustained PC Perspective on that very point, a similar application of trust must be applied here. If readers and viewers were able to trust our reviews for ASUS motherboards, despite running ASUS advertising on our site, or our videos on EVGA graphics cards despite running EVGA advertising on our site, then I feel that readers should continue to trust us as Shrout Research moves forward.
Here is a list of the companies that we have worked with on the advertising side in the last 10 years:
· AMD
· Antec
· ASUS
· BFG
· Cooler Master
· Corsair
· Crucial
· Diamond
· Drobo
· ECS
· Enermax
· EVGA
· FSP
· Galaxy
· Gigabyte
· Intel
· Logitech
· MSI
· Newegg
· NCIX
· NVIDIA
· OCZ / Toshiba
· Samsung
· Seasonic
· Silverstone
· Thermaltake
· Tiger Direct
· Western Digital
· XFX
· Zalman
There have been years where AMD is our biggest sponsor; several in fact. There are years where Logitech has been. ASUS is generally one of our biggest sponsors. The point I want to make here is that if you didn’t trust us before, there is little I can do to change that. But if you did trust us before, I think we have proven ourselves over the course of many years that the trust is warranted.
And for clarity, the companies we have worked with through Shrout Research:
· AMD
· Arm
· Intel
· NVIDIA
· Qualcomm
I believe that work that you do, despite our differences, is incredibly important to keeping people on their toes and maintaining sanity. I don’t believe that you have correctly portrayed the work we do or how we operate.We aren't perfect, I am not perfect. I don't believe any of us have ever made that claim. But I do know that you have taken our work and intent out of context.
If you still have to have a video calling us out for our practices, I obviously can’t stop you. But I would request that you fix the factual errors in your video. That includes the FreeSync story, the assertion that we don’t work with AMD prior to posting stories (including the ping testing and the RX 480 power), the affiliate link on AMD’s website, the lack of differences between the 900P white paper and the review, and that we have not been forthcoming (at all) about the existence and relationship of Shrout Research and PC Perspective.
I don’t consider this list of points exhaustive, by any means. I didn’t have time to re-watch or transcribe your video in order to dive into details on each and every point. Should something specific come to mind you want me to answer, let me know. If you have other question or problems with how we do things, or how we appear to be doing things from an external view, I’ll gladly answer them.
AdoredTV 7:14 PM (2 hours ago)
to me Thanks Ryan.
I feel you have raised some valid points however it's not nearly enough for me to keep the video private. Specifically, you failed to address the major points regarding conflict of interest and the "FreeSync vs G-Sync Ghosting Comparison" video, both of which have still not been rectified.
Can I again point to the EJN's article where it clearly states...
  1. Accountability A sure sign of professionalism and responsible journalism is the ability to hold ourselves accountable. When we commit errors we must correct them and our expressions of regret must be sincere not cynical. We listen to the concerns of our audience. We may not change what readers write or say but we will always provide remedies when we are unfair.
I will have a closer look on Monday to see if you have remedied these faults before continuing with the rest of your response. Regards,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 7:20 PM (2 hours ago)
to AdoredTV Okay. Can you expand for me the points about the comparison story and video that you believe are still concerning? Is it that we have not updated the video and text of the write up to reference the later story?
AdoredTV 8:02 PM (2 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan.
Sure I'll expand on these points. 1) I see no reason why you would not have rectified your error with the "FreeSync vs G-Sync ghosting" video, given what you have had pointed out to you today. That is literally a 5 second edit to the title which you chose to ignore.
2) The Optane review still looks the same - that is there is still nothing advising the reader of any potential conflict of interest. I'm sure you're aware of all the FTC regulations regarding this subject - but please...neither of us has any desire to go down that route I'm sure. - Jim On a personal level - When your changes are complete, it would likely be beneficial to point them out on social media. You will gain far more from these two small actions than your current course ever will - and by that I mean you will regain respect from your viewers. My bet would be you'd also find it all very liberating, because pride is a terrible thing. It's very late here and this has taken up much of my day so forgive me as I have to retire to bed.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 8:16 PM (1 hour ago)
to AdoredTV Honestly, I was planning to include links and updates, but, I didn't want it to look like I was doing something manipulative before we had some to some kind of resolution. I agree these are 5-second edits, and I say in my rather long feedback note that I thought it was a reasonable request. You instead immediately posted the video back up, which I didn't think would occur without the dialogue.
The same applies to the Optane review - not wanting to change ANYTHING on the site as it would look like we were trying to change things out from under you, or the community. I assure you that my lawyer and I have gone over the regulations in this country for disclosure before starting the company, we are know what the bounds of "legal" and "moral" are. Also, do you not think AMD/Intel/NVIDIA/Qualcomm/Arm have lawyers that vet every relationship like this? If I was breaking the law, they would never have me working with them.
Are you going to keep the video up, even if these edits occur? What about your claims of correcting content that is known to be incorrect, incomplete, inaccurate? That seems to violate the rule, does it not, with all of the information you have had sent your way?
AdoredTV 8:39 PM (1 hour ago)
to me If you had simply rectified or even given the indication that you were open to rectifying both issues then sure I would have taken that under consideration. There was nothing to suggest that either move would be made. As it was, you basically just regurgitated a bunch of text from your reviews which I've already read. This stuff doesn't translate very well across the Atlantic. I made the video private on good faith Ryan. I was the one who offered to unlist it, then I agreed to make it private on your suggestion. I did what I could reasonably be expected to do to help you but you didn't take the chance. These past hours have been filled with me fighting my own viewers over claims of weakness, selling out or other nonsense like legal threats forcing me to take it down. I spent the last 6 hours fighting my own viewers because of this.
I didn't have to deal with any of that but I did...because I gave you the chance. I was hoping for a real show of accountability and this is what your readers want to see too. Please just apologise Ryan - make a statement, show that you've removed/changed the title of the FreeSync Video and updated your Optane review. I promise you that I will not gloat - in fact I'd be far more likely to applaud you for it. If that is done by the time I wake tomorrow, I'll put the video private again. I need to sleep, it's 1:30 here.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 9:21 PM (43 minutes ago)
to AdoredTV It is done. The point of the initial email was to have a discussion and clarify things. I'm disappointed that you would repost the video even after the concerns I brought up about some of the rash notes and emails I received.
Here is the video with updated title and link to the updated story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ylLnT2yKyA Here is the FS story with link at top of first page: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync- The bottom of this page discloses the specifics of the Intel 900P paper and review: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Intel-Optane-SSD-900P-480GB-and-280GB-NVMe-HHHL-SSD-Review-Lots-3D-XPoint/Conclusion
I will likely post a thread on reddit to bring up the points that I brought up to you in the long email, since that information is already out there and in the public. No mal-intent intended to you there, just making sure the points I sent you are public.
Jim P 4:43 AM Saturday
to me Thanks Ryan.
I've decided to skip the party today and get a video out on this topic and to clarify what happens next, so that this can be avoided in future. I will put the video private at the same time. Regards,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 10:39 AM Saturday
to Jim While I am sorry for you to miss your family event, I appreciate the removal of the video and whatever update you might have.
I will be posting our comments and thread here to reddit sometime this morning.
Congratulations, you reached the end!
Again, thanks for reading and for giving us a chance to state our position.
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2018.01.27 17:30 MC_chrome PCPer's Response to Recent Events

EDIT: Sorry for posting the same topic twice. Ryan had to issue a fix as he explains below.
(Had to repost as Reddit picked a thumbnail from a CNN story as the correct image for this post. Sorry!)
Hi hardware fans. It's been an eventful couple of days in the offices and home for me (and Allyn). A video from YouTube channel AdoredTV was posted late Thursday night (US eastern time) that directly attacked our credibility, which has been taken down, reposted, and taken down again. In all honesty, we tend to have a policy of not responding to verbal accusations online, because if we did, that's all anyone that writes reviews would ever do.
This one was more impactful though. We were called out directly by name (me and Allyn) and some very specific statements were made against our reviews on pcper.com and our new company at shroutreseach.com.
Most importantly from my point of view was that I woke up on Friday morning to find that I had been sent pictures of my home (and my office) from Google Maps along with my address from random viewers of this video. Obviously when you start to get into areas of personal and family safety, things get ratcheted up quite dramatically. With recent events (a swatting resulting in a death on Dec 30th) showing that sometimes crazies on the internet can in fact do crazy things when incited, I was legitimately worried about my wife and daughter.
Jim at AdoredTV initially agreed to take the video down in an email exchange after I expressed those safety concerns. But after he didn't think I addressed all the points his video accusations covered in the response that I sent him (that will be included below), he re-posted it. After some more emails back and forth, he took the video back down as of Saturday morning.
At this point, I wanted to make sure that the response to his video that I sent him was public, so that the readers and viewers of both of our content can make their own decision.
In the end, I agreed to make edits to the FreeSync story/video that he brought up. These are reasonable points from him that would have simply required an email or phone call to address at the outset. We also added a disclosure statement to the end of our Intel 900P review in regards to Shrout Research. My statement of honesty in our review remains, but in order to be more transparent, the disclosure was added.
It's worth noting that not 48 hours before the original posting of AdoredTVs video, our team had been debating not about putting disclosures on the stories, but what the exact wording of them would be. This was prompted by a question sent in to our mailbag series our desire to be honest about things. This is still going to happen, but we are finalizing what that global statement will be.
I do think its important to note that despite the intent to paint it as such, there really are no black and white answers to this. Some will say that I should release financial statements. Some will say this is more than enough. I anticipate that he will still have some issues with our process, as will others. I accept that. We will continue to do what we think is best.
You'll find below a complete copy of an email exchange between Jim at AdoredTV and myself. It's a long read, one that I think is important in its entirety for those concerned about these allegations, but I've also prepared this more succinct list of our responses to the major issues.
Unfairness to FreeSync: We have made the edits/updates that the AdoredTV video called out. We believed at the time that our new article on the topic was adequate due diligence. While it is impossible for any outlet to update all published articles or videos every time something changes, we recognize that this was an important issue and we will try to do better about updating published content when appropriate. As for the FreeSync panel debate, the text of our review stated that the panels shared the same “specifications,” not that they were the same panels. However, in comments related to the article, we did state that the panels were the same. That was our error and we apologize. General bias against AMD: We have worked with AMD for many years and have spoken with them both on and off the record countless times. The claims in the video that we did not convey pre-launch product concerns to AMD are false. PCPer was also not the first or only outlet to draw attention to the RX 480 power draw and Ryzen latency issues, and we worked extensively with AMD for months in advance of the release of our Frame Rating/FCAT testing. As for perceived bias, we treat all companies and products with respect and fairness, and it has never been suggested by the companies we cover that the reality is otherwise. Radeon Affiliate Link: The first we heard about our Amazon affiliate tag being present in a link at the Radeon website was when Ryan Smith of AnandTech tweeted about it, as shown in the AdoredTV video. We have absolutely no idea how that link got there, and we received zero commissions or sales data on the Vega Frontier Edition as a result of it. Due to the fact that the affiliate tag present on the Radeon page is incorrect (it has an extra %20 at the end), we’re not even sure if it would have been credited to our Amazon account had someone inadvertently used it. But we reiterate that there is absolutely no arrangement, official or unofficial, that called for our affiliate link to be placed on AMD’s website. Shrout Research & The Intel 900P Review: Intel hired Shrout Research to conduct testing of the 900P and produce a white paper for public release if the results were positive. We have conducted similar testing for many other companies, including AMD, and in most cases the information we provide is kept private for internal use at those companies. We also wrote a review of the 900P at pcper.com, with the timing of the release of both pieces dictated by the 900P embargo date. Contrary to the claims in the video, the review and the white paper were not the same. Separate testing was performed on different platforms, although one of the drives (the 480GB model), which was provided by Intel for the white paper, was also used in the review. In short, the tests performed were different, the results were different (in most cases lower in the pcper.com review), and Intel was not given pre-release access or control over the content of the review. Disclosure: While we did not try to “hide” anything as was suggested in the video (Shrout Research, named after me, has a public website, twitter account, and has been mentioned and published often on our podcasts, weekly mailbag videos, on my Twitter account, and in my freelance writing bio), we failed to disclose the nature and extent of Shrout Research’s relationship with Intel on the 900P review at PCPer. That was our error. We will rectify this by adopting a complete disclosure policy for all reviews going forward, which will clearly state not just relationships related to Shrout Research, but also the terms of our review, any related advertisers, and any other potential conflicts that may appear. It was never our intent to deceive, and we still stand fully by the content of the 900P review, but we will attempt to do better about proper disclosure going forward. 
(Times in the email reference a "current time" of about 10pm ET. Copy and paste is funny in Gmail.)
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 9:46 AM (12 hours ago)
to jim Do you have time to chat quickly today? Saw the video, I have lots of questions, many concerns, but most importantly a request. I can call you direct or on Skype, etc.
Jim P <*********> 12:38 PM (9 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan.
Sorry I'm out all weekend and I'm actually not in my own place right now (I'm in Scotland but live in Sweden) and getting peace and quiet isn't very easy anyway. I might be available to talk a bit on Monday but if you have a request that needs dealing with sooner, feel free to shoot it to me and obviously I'll listen.
Regards,
Jim 
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:18 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Jim,
I'm a little disappointed that you would be willing to post a video with those kinds of accusations without contacting me for input but unwilling to spend 15 minutes on the phone or Skype with me to address it. Although not your intent, we are at the point now of viewers of your content reaching out to me with pictures of my house on Google Maps with my address, as well as my office. Obviously with the recent occurrences in the world, and as the father of a two year old, this is something we take exceedingly seriously. I'm worried that your video and comments, though I disagree with almost all of them, are going to be used to cause more harm than you had intended.
I have a list of corrections and inaccuracies, as well as comments surround some of your concerns, that I am preparing. But I would greatly appreciate some assistance in controlling this situation.
AdoredTV 1:29 PM (8 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan,
I just got back from the dentist and I'm currently at my sister's house in Scotland. It's dinner time here also. Tomorrow we celebrate my sisters birthday at another venue. What do you want me to do to help? Should I unlist the video? I'm willing to do that for now though it'll blow over in a couple of days anyway. Be aware that if I don't like your response to my points in the video, I wasn't joking when I said I left out more than I put in. I will not be manipulated, consider my offer to unlist the video the final chance of avoiding a real escalation. Regards,
Jim
Jim P 1:32 PM (8 hours ago)
to me Not sure if my previous response got through, resending...
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:42 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Jim,
I appreciate the offer to make the video unlisted. However, because the video will still be viewable from any number of sources with the URL, I think making it private would be more appropriate.
I plan to send you my responses and comments in private, or on a call, in order to address your questions and concerns in a way that does not endanger anyone's family. I understand that you may choose to take these emails public, and that is fine as I am not trying to hide anything. This can be an "on the record conversation" but the goal is to discuss in private, to understand each others points, without putting anyone else at risk.
Jim P 1:51 PM (8 hours ago)
to me I will make the video private, for now. And I will also write a tweet.
We'll talk later.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:51 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Thank you for that. I will follow up with my comments today.
AdoredTV 5:12 PM (4 hours ago)
to me It's rapidly approaching end of day in Kentucky, Ryan. One more hour then the video goes public again. Cheers,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 5:37 PM (4 hours ago)
to AdoredTV Hi Jim,
I saw your video posted on Jan 25th about me, Allyn Malventano, PC Perspective, and Shrout Research. While I think your intentions are earnest, I have some serious concerns about the accusations that are made and the facts of your story.
First, I think it is worth noting again that creating this kind of content without requesting input from the accused seems incredibly inflammatory and unfair. As you point out the code of ethics of journalism many times in your video, there are multiple references to “right to reply” that should exist during or at the same time. This opportunity was not given to us.
Second, the impact of your commentary, true or not, has the potential to cause harm to me, my team, and my family. Having already received pictures of my home and my address from viewers of your video, and with the recent events that have occurred around the world, I am now genuinely concerned about the safety of my family. Also in that code of ethics is a section on humanity: “Journalists should do no harm. What we publish or broadcast may be hurtful, but we should be aware of the impact of our words and images on the lives of others.”
The beginning of your accusations of bias on PC Perspective starts with our article on the first FreeSync monitors from 2015. The crux of your argument is that our team, including Allyn and myself, determined that FreeSync was the cause of the ghosting we saw on the display, though others indicated it was not a result of FreeSync, but rather the panel or integration itself. Our assertion at the time would have been that because FreeSync was the “certification brand” of this display, that in the end, regardless of the root technical cause, AMD and the FreeSync team were ultimately responsible. Our original story even details our inability to nail down the root cause of the problem.
*The question now is: why is this happening and does it have anything to do with G-Sync or FreeSync? NVIDIA has stated on a few occasions that there is more that goes into a VRR monitor than simply integrated vBlank extensions and have pointed to instances like this as an example as to why. Modern monitors are often tuned to a specific refresh rate – 144 Hz, 120 Hz, 60 Hz, etc. – and the power delivery to pixels is built to reduce ghosting and image defects. But in a situation where the refresh rate can literally be ANY rate, as we get with VRR displays, the LCD will very often be in these non-tuned refresh rates. NVIDIA claims its G-Sync module is tuned for each display to prevent ghosting by change the amount of voltage going to pixels at different refresh rates, allowing pixels to untwist and retwist at different rates.
It’s impossible now to know if that is the cause for the difference seen above. But with the ROG Swift and BenQ XL2730Z sharing the same 144 Hz TN panel specifications, there is obviously something different about the integration. It could be panel technology, it could be VRR technology or it could be settings in the monitor itself. We will be diving more into the issue as we spend more time with different FreeSync models.
For its part, AMD says that ghosting is an issue it is hoping to lessen on FreeSync monitors by helping partners pick the right components (Tcon, scalars, etc.) and to drive a “fast evolution” in this area.
Source: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync-*
You then bring up the fact that after we did discover that a firmware fix occurred (after our review), we posted a completely new article four months after our review recognizing the changes and improvements. There is a fair point to be made that we should have gone back to the original story and updated it with links to the new story. However, by doing a follow-up story and posting it in the same channels as the original (main site, video, Twitter, etc.) we believe we did due diligence here.
*In an industry that constantly changing with new hardware reviews, firmware updates, and even software and driver changes, keeping up with it is difficult. Extremely difficult. We will continue to find ways to do it better.
Any claims we made in comments or forums that panels in the competing G-Sync and FreeSync monitors were identical are false, and our error. But in our originally story, where articles are edited and curated, we state clearly that they shared the same “specifications”:
It’s impossible now to know if that is the cause for the difference seen above. But with the ROG Swift and BenQ XL2730Z sharing the same 144 Hz TN panel specifications, there is obviously something different about the integration.
Source: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync-*
Should comments and forum posts have been more accurate? Yes.
You also mention our frequent streams with NVIDIA’s Tom Petersen as a source bias in our content. While we definitely have hosted Tom in our offices many times, the invite has always been open for any vendor we work with to co-host a live stream to talk to our audience. AMD has taken us up on these offers on seven specific instances:
· [https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Live-Review-Recap-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-]Edition(https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Live-Review-Recap-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-Edition)
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-Interview-AMDs-Richard-Huddy-June-17th-4pm-ET-1pm-PT
· https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-Live-Stream-and-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-Radeon-RX-480-Live-Stream-Raja-Koduri
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-Discussion-and-RX-480-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-Discussion-and-RX-580-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-adds-game-overlay-mobile-app-wider-API-support
We probably have done more interviews with Tom than with AMD or any other vendor, but this is not indicative of anything other than NVIDIA’s desire to communicate with our audience slightly more frequently.
Next, you discuss the RX 480 power issue and indicate that PC Perspective’s stories were inflammatory and without merit. I would point out that not only did AMD acknowledge and fix the issue, but we were not the first media outlet to show the problem. Tom’s Hardware actually reported the problem first, and we linked to them in our first story on the topic. We worked with AMD to supply them with our data as we got it, to solicit input before, after, and during the story writing.
Another point brought up in your video is that PC Perspective appears to be willing to work behind the scenes with some companies to help fix problems and potential issues, but not with AMD. That is factually incorrect. We have worked with AMD in many instances, providing information before product releases, to help them fix problems.
Examples include our Frame Rating / FCAT testing, where we shared data, opinions, and insights with AMD months before the release of the first public story. On the Ryzen latency “ping test” we also sent information to AMD before publication to ask for input and feedback. When Ryzen motherboards were having significant issues at launch we worked with them and partners on updates and BIOS improvements in the background before reviewing those products. The facts are that we work with every company on the same level.
On the issue of AMD using an Amazon.com link that included our affiliate code, the first time I was aware of that was when the link and screenshot Anandtech’s Ryan Smith tweet was sent out. I never had any conversation with anyone at AMD about including it, or why it was there even after the fact. It was not something we asked for, expected, or benefitted from. A search of our Amazon.com affiliate data from July through today shows exactly zero Vega Frontier Edition cards sold on our account, from links on our articles or from AMD’s website.
Now let’s address the Shrout Research side of your story. Shrout Research was started in October of 2016 to allow us to offer services that we were being asked for from companies already, but separated from the PC Perspective website. It is probably fair to say that we have not been as open as we could or should have been about how this works.
But it is crucial to recognize that were not hiding this company or its relationship to me. The company and my position there is listed on my Twitter profile. We often link to ShroutResearch.com in stories posted on pcper.com. We have discussed Shrout Research on the podcast. I have answered questions about the company in mailbags from user-submitted questions. It is listed in my pcper.com profile page. Most (probably all) stories posted on MarketWatch or similar sites list my relationship to both companies. We link to the Shrout Research white papers (including the 900P paper) in some PC Perspective stories.
To address specific problems you have noted, I’ll start with the 900P paper and review. You claim that our test suite for the 900P review on PC Perspective was created for the Intel work done with Shrout Research. This is not true. The first review to use Allyn’s Latency Percentile performance testing methodology was with the launch of the Samsung 960 EVO in November of 2016 and research of this new testing process was first shown with the 950 PRO review in October of 2015. The 900P review was using this same testing method.
Furthermore, the testing that was showcased in the Shrout Research 900P white paper and the review differ greatly. You assert that the review on PC Perspective is simply a copy of the testing and work done on the research side, however looking at the paper and the review shows that isn’t the case. Benchmarks and analysis of applications like AS-SSD, CrystalDiskMark, Anvil, Photo Mechanic, and Houdini are in the paper, but were not used in the review. The data presented in the review is based on Allyn’s custom testing capabilities, of which only two small results are part of the white paper.
The testing for Shrout Research and PC Perspective testing of the 900P was done on different systems as well. The review data was gathered on our standard PCPer storage testing platform and the Shrout Research data was gathered on a platform that Intel specifically requested we configure. The review on PCPer used retail drives, the testing for Shrout Research was using engineering samples. Even more, the performance of the data results that do overlap are actually LOWER in the review on PC Perspective as they were tested on a different platform than the one used on the white paper. The results on PC Perspective and Shrout Research are not copies.
The concern over using hardware and devices received through Shrout Research arrangements for the review on PC Perspective is valid. Honestly, we didn’t see the harm (at the time) to include the second capacity of the 900P in our review as it presented more information to the reader. Was this unfair to others in the media? Probably. Have we seen numerous other exclusives come to websites (including us) over the years that weren’t fair to the media? Yes. Are samples often sent out differently from site to site? Absolutely. See the RX Vega launch most recently and many storage reviews that send different capacities and sets to reviewers.
If you follow PC Perspective at all, you know that we were going to publish a review on PC Perspective of the 900P regardless of the existence of the white paper or our arrangements with Intel. And our opinion of the product would not be have been swayed. Our agreement with Intel was to vet and evaluate the 900P so it could get an idea of how the device stood in the market and how it might be received in the public. The white paper was only to be written if Intel thought the results from our testing were positive in their eyes, however the fee Shrout Research was paid was the same regardless of whether or not the paper was produced.
Shrout Research currently works the biggest, and most competitive, companies in the high-tech world, including Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Qualcomm, and Arm. We have done similar work for others on this list, in particular AMD. We have done evaluation of hardware prior to media and public device availability, to advise and showcase the performance as our team sees it. In those cases with AMD, which began in March of 2017, AMD used the reports internally and decided to not request a public paper from Shrout Research.
If any of these companies saw me, or Shrout Research, or anyone on our team as unreliable or capable of bias, they would have no reason to work with me, especially on the Shrout Research side. Instead, the 18+ years of work that I have under me and the positive results I have produced in terms of relevant, honest, and useful content leads them to partner with us to help make their products, messaging, and companies better.
As I said at the beginning, nothing about Shrout Research is hidden or was attempted to be secretive. Should we have been more explicit in some disclosures? Yes, clearly. Should we have been stricter in how product was shared between the two entities? Probably. It’s something we had honestly discussed just this past week, and this story further necessitates the need for it.
At the end of the day, the trust of the reader and the companies that work with us is paramount and the only thing that keeps us going. There will always be some individuals that don’t like us or have insurmountable distrust of us for some reason; it’s been that way for literally the last 18 years of my life. But I know that we attempt to treat every company equally, treat every product equally, and every situation equally.
Many people feel a sense of distrust around paid advertising on hardware sites. I obviously disagree that running ads for a company inherently means you are going to be biased towards them, and I have built and sustained PC Perspective on that very point, a similar application of trust must be applied here. If readers and viewers were able to trust our reviews for ASUS motherboards, despite running ASUS advertising on our site, or our videos on EVGA graphics cards despite running EVGA advertising on our site, then I feel that readers should continue to trust us as Shrout Research moves forward.
Here is a list of the companies that we have worked with on the advertising side in the last 10 years:
· AMD
· Antec
· ASUS
· BFG
· Cooler Master
· Corsair
· Crucial
· Diamond
· Drobo
· ECS
· Enermax
· EVGA
· FSP
· Galaxy
· Gigabyte
· Intel
· Logitech
· MSI
· Newegg
· NCIX
· NVIDIA
· OCZ / Toshiba
· Samsung
· Seasonic
· Silverstone
· Thermaltake
· Tiger Direct
· Western Digital
· XFX
· Zalman
There have been years where AMD is our biggest sponsor; several in fact. There are years where Logitech has been. ASUS is generally one of our biggest sponsors. The point I want to make here is that if you didn’t trust us before, there is little I can do to change that. But if you did trust us before, I think we have proven ourselves over the course of many years that the trust is warranted.
And for clarity, the companies we have worked with through Shrout Research:
· AMD
· Arm
· Intel
· NVIDIA
· Qualcomm
I believe that work that you do, despite our differences, is incredibly important to keeping people on their toes and maintaining sanity. I don’t believe that you have correctly portrayed the work we do or how we operate.We aren't perfect, I am not perfect. I don't believe any of us have ever made that claim. But I do know that you have taken our work and intent out of context.
If you still have to have a video calling us out for our practices, I obviously can’t stop you. But I would request that you fix the factual errors in your video. That includes the FreeSync story, the assertion that we don’t work with AMD prior to posting stories (including the ping testing and the RX 480 power), the affiliate link on AMD’s website, the lack of differences between the 900P white paper and the review, and that we have not been forthcoming (at all) about the existence and relationship of Shrout Research and PC Perspective.
I don’t consider this list of points exhaustive, by any means. I didn’t have time to re-watch or transcribe your video in order to dive into details on each and every point. Should something specific come to mind you want me to answer, let me know. If you have other question or problems with how we do things, or how we appear to be doing things from an external view, I’ll gladly answer them.
AdoredTV 7:14 PM (2 hours ago)
to me Thanks Ryan.
I feel you have raised some valid points however it's not nearly enough for me to keep the video private. Specifically, you failed to address the major points regarding conflict of interest and the "FreeSync vs G-Sync Ghosting Comparison" video, both of which have still not been rectified.
Can I again point to the EJN's article where it clearly states...
Accountability A sure sign of professionalism and responsible journalism is the ability to hold ourselves accountable. When we commit errors we must correct them and our expressions of regret must be sincere not cynical. We listen to the concerns of our audience. We may not change what readers write or say but we will always provide remedies when we are unfair. 
I will have a closer look on Monday to see if you have remedied these faults before continuing with the rest of your response. Regards,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 7:20 PM (2 hours ago)
to AdoredTV Okay. Can you expand for me the points about the comparison story and video that you believe are still concerning? Is it that we have not updated the video and text of the write up to reference the later story?
AdoredTV 8:02 PM (2 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan.
Sure I'll expand on these points. 1) I see no reason why you would not have rectified your error with the "FreeSync vs G-Sync ghosting" video, given what you have had pointed out to you today. That is literally a 5 second edit to the title which you chose to ignore.
2) The Optane review still looks the same - that is there is still nothing advising the reader of any potential conflict of interest. I'm sure you're aware of all the FTC regulations regarding this subject - but please...neither of us has any desire to go down that route I'm sure. - Jim On a personal level - When your changes are complete, it would likely be beneficial to point them out on social media. You will gain far more from these two small actions than your current course ever will - and by that I mean you will regain respect from your viewers. My bet would be you'd also find it all very liberating, because pride is a terrible thing. It's very late here and this has taken up much of my day so forgive me as I have to retire to bed.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 8:16 PM (1 hour ago)
to AdoredTV Honestly, I was planning to include links and updates, but, I didn't want it to look like I was doing something manipulative before we had some to some kind of resolution. I agree these are 5-second edits, and I say in my rather long feedback note that I thought it was a reasonable request. You instead immediately posted the video back up, which I didn't think would occur without the dialogue.
The same applies to the Optane review - not wanting to change ANYTHING on the site as it would look like we were trying to change things out from under you, or the community. I assure you that my lawyer and I have gone over the regulations in this country for disclosure before starting the company, we are know what the bounds of "legal" and "moral" are. Also, do you not think AMD/Intel/NVIDIA/Qualcomm/Arm have lawyers that vet every relationship like this? If I was breaking the law, they would never have me working with them.
Are you going to keep the video up, even if these edits occur? What about your claims of correcting content that is known to be incorrect, incomplete, inaccurate? That seems to violate the rule, does it not, with all of the information you have had sent your way?
AdoredTV 8:39 PM (1 hour ago)
to me If you had simply rectified or even given the indication that you were open to rectifying both issues then sure I would have taken that under consideration. There was nothing to suggest that either move would be made. As it was, you basically just regurgitated a bunch of text from your reviews which I've already read. This stuff doesn't translate very well across the Atlantic. I made the video private on good faith Ryan. I was the one who offered to unlist it, then I agreed to make it private on your suggestion. I did what I could reasonably be expected to do to help you but you didn't take the chance. These past hours have been filled with me fighting my own viewers over claims of weakness, selling out or other nonsense like legal threats forcing me to take it down. I spent the last 6 hours fighting my own viewers because of this.
I didn't have to deal with any of that but I did...because I gave you the chance. I was hoping for a real show of accountability and this is what your readers want to see too. Please just apologise Ryan - make a statement, show that you've removed/changed the title of the FreeSync Video and updated your Optane review. I promise you that I will not gloat - in fact I'd be far more likely to applaud you for it. If that is done by the time I wake tomorrow, I'll put the video private again. I need to sleep, it's 1:30 here.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 9:21 PM (43 minutes ago)
to AdoredTV It is done. The point of the initial email was to have a discussion and clarify things. I'm disappointed that you would repost the video even after the concerns I brought up about some of the rash notes and emails I received.
Here is the video with updated title and link to the updated story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ylLnT2yKyA Here is the FS story with link at top of first page: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync- The bottom of this page discloses the specifics of the Intel 900P paper and review: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Intel-Optane-SSD-900P-480GB-and-280GB-NVMe-HHHL-SSD-Review-Lots-3D-XPoint/Conclusion
I will likely post a thread on reddit to bring up the points that I brought up to you in the long email, since that information is already out there and in the public. No mal-intent intended to you there, just making sure the points I sent you are public.
Jim P 4:43 AM Saturday
to me Thanks Ryan.
I've decided to skip the party today and get a video out on this topic and to clarify what happens next, so that this can be avoided in future. I will put the video private at the same time. Regards,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 10:39 AM Saturday
to Jim While I am sorry for you to miss your family event, I appreciate the removal of the video and whatever update you might have.
I will be posting our comments and thread here to reddit sometime this morning.
Congratulations, you reached the end!
Again, thanks for reading and for giving us a chance to state our position.
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2018.01.27 17:20 inappropriatecontext PCPer's Response to the Recent Ethical Concerns and Accusations

(Had to repost as Reddit picked a thumbnail from a CNN story as the correct image for this post. Sorry! This link here to our PCPer logo is to prevent mobile apps from grabbing the CNN link still.)
Hi hardware fans. It's been an eventful couple of days in the offices and home for me (and Allyn). A video from YouTube channel AdoredTV was posted late Thursday night (US eastern time) that directly attacked our credibility, which has been taken down, reposted, and taken down again. In all honesty, we tend to have a policy of not responding to verbal accusations online, because if we did, that's all anyone that writes reviews would ever do.
This one was more impactful though. We were called out directly by name (me and Allyn) and some very specific statements were made against our reviews on pcper.com and our new company at shroutreseach.com.
Most importantly from my point of view was that I woke up on Friday morning to find that I had been sent pictures of my home (and my office) from Google Maps along with my address from random viewers of this video. Obviously when you start to get into areas of personal and family safety, things get ratcheted up quite dramatically. With recent events (a swatting resulting in a death on Dec 30th) showing that sometimes crazies on the internet can in fact do crazy things when incited, I was legitimately worried about my wife and daughter.
Jim at AdoredTV initially agreed to take the video down in an email exchange after I expressed those safety concerns. But after he didn't think I addressed all the points his video accusations covered in the response that I sent him (that will be included below), he re-posted it. After some more emails back and forth, he took the video back down as of Saturday morning.
At this point, I wanted to make sure that the response to his video that I sent him was public, so that the readers and viewers of both of our content can make their own decision.
In the end, I agreed to make edits to the FreeSync story/video that he brought up. These are reasonable points from him that would have simply required an email or phone call to address at the outset. We also added a disclosure statement to the end of our Intel 900P review in regards to Shrout Research. My statement of honesty in our review remains, but in order to be more transparent, the disclosure was added.
It's worth noting that not 48 hours before the original posting of AdoredTVs video, our team had been debating not about putting disclosures on the stories, but what the exact wording of them would be. This was prompted by a question sent in to our mailbag series our desire to be honest about things. This is still going to happen, but we are finalizing what that global statement will be.
I do think its important to note that despite the intent to paint it as such, there really are no black and white answers to this. Some will say that I should release financial statements. Some will say this is more than enough. I anticipate that he will still have some issues with our process, as will others. I accept that. We will continue to do what we think is best.
You'll find below a complete copy of an email exchange between Jim at AdoredTV and myself. It's a long read, one that I think is important in its entirety for those concerned about these allegations, but I've also prepared this more succinct list of our responses to the major issues.
(Times in the email reference a "current time" of about 10pm ET. Copy and paste is funny in Gmail.)
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 9:46 AM (12 hours ago)
to jim Do you have time to chat quickly today? Saw the video, I have lots of questions, many concerns, but most importantly a request. I can call you direct or on Skype, etc.
Jim P <*********> 12:38 PM (9 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan.
Sorry I'm out all weekend and I'm actually not in my own place right now (I'm in Scotland but live in Sweden) and getting peace and quiet isn't very easy anyway. I might be available to talk a bit on Monday but if you have a request that needs dealing with sooner, feel free to shoot it to me and obviously I'll listen.
Regards,
  • Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:18 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Jim,
I'm a little disappointed that you would be willing to post a video with those kinds of accusations without contacting me for input but unwilling to spend 15 minutes on the phone or Skype with me to address it. Although not your intent, we are at the point now of viewers of your content reaching out to me with pictures of my house on Google Maps with my address, as well as my office. Obviously with the recent occurrences in the world, and as the father of a two year old, this is something we take exceedingly seriously. I'm worried that your video and comments, though I disagree with almost all of them, are going to be used to cause more harm than you had intended.
I have a list of corrections and inaccuracies, as well as comments surround some of your concerns, that I am preparing. But I would greatly appreciate some assistance in controlling this situation.
AdoredTV 1:29 PM (8 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan,
I just got back from the dentist and I'm currently at my sister's house in Scotland. It's dinner time here also. Tomorrow we celebrate my sisters birthday at another venue. What do you want me to do to help? Should I unlist the video? I'm willing to do that for now though it'll blow over in a couple of days anyway. Be aware that if I don't like your response to my points in the video, I wasn't joking when I said I left out more than I put in. I will not be manipulated, consider my offer to unlist the video the final chance of avoiding a real escalation. Regards,
Jim
Jim P 1:32 PM (8 hours ago)
to me Not sure if my previous response got through, resending...
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:42 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Jim,
I appreciate the offer to make the video unlisted. However, because the video will still be viewable from any number of sources with the URL, I think making it private would be more appropriate.
I plan to send you my responses and comments in private, or on a call, in order to address your questions and concerns in a way that does not endanger anyone's family. I understand that you may choose to take these emails public, and that is fine as I am not trying to hide anything. This can be an "on the record conversation" but the goal is to discuss in private, to understand each others points, without putting anyone else at risk.
Jim P 1:51 PM (8 hours ago)
to me I will make the video private, for now. And I will also write a tweet.
We'll talk later.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 1:51 PM (8 hours ago)
to Jim Thank you for that. I will follow up with my comments today.
AdoredTV 5:12 PM (4 hours ago)
to me It's rapidly approaching end of day in Kentucky, Ryan. One more hour then the video goes public again. Cheers,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 5:37 PM (4 hours ago)
to AdoredTV Hi Jim,
I saw your video posted on Jan 25th about me, Allyn Malventano, PC Perspective, and Shrout Research. While I think your intentions are earnest, I have some serious concerns about the accusations that are made and the facts of your story.
First, I think it is worth noting again that creating this kind of content without requesting input from the accused seems incredibly inflammatory and unfair. As you point out the code of ethics of journalism many times in your video, there are multiple references to “right to reply” that should exist during or at the same time. This opportunity was not given to us.
Second, the impact of your commentary, true or not, has the potential to cause harm to me, my team, and my family. Having already received pictures of my home and my address from viewers of your video, and with the recent events that have occurred around the world, I am now genuinely concerned about the safety of my family. Also in that code of ethics is a section on humanity: “Journalists should do no harm. What we publish or broadcast may be hurtful, but we should be aware of the impact of our words and images on the lives of others.”
The beginning of your accusations of bias on PC Perspective starts with our article on the first FreeSync monitors from 2015. The crux of your argument is that our team, including Allyn and myself, determined that FreeSync was the cause of the ghosting we saw on the display, though others indicated it was not a result of FreeSync, but rather the panel or integration itself. Our assertion at the time would have been that because FreeSync was the “certification brand” of this display, that in the end, regardless of the root technical cause, AMD and the FreeSync team were ultimately responsible. Our original story even details our inability to nail down the root cause of the problem.
*The question now is: why is this happening and does it have anything to do with G-Sync or FreeSync? NVIDIA has stated on a few occasions that there is more that goes into a VRR monitor than simply integrated vBlank extensions and have pointed to instances like this as an example as to why. Modern monitors are often tuned to a specific refresh rate – 144 Hz, 120 Hz, 60 Hz, etc. – and the power delivery to pixels is built to reduce ghosting and image defects. But in a situation where the refresh rate can literally be ANY rate, as we get with VRR displays, the LCD will very often be in these non-tuned refresh rates. NVIDIA claims its G-Sync module is tuned for each display to prevent ghosting by change the amount of voltage going to pixels at different refresh rates, allowing pixels to untwist and retwist at different rates.
It’s impossible now to know if that is the cause for the difference seen above. But with the ROG Swift and BenQ XL2730Z sharing the same 144 Hz TN panel specifications, there is obviously something different about the integration. It could be panel technology, it could be VRR technology or it could be settings in the monitor itself. We will be diving more into the issue as we spend more time with different FreeSync models.
For its part, AMD says that ghosting is an issue it is hoping to lessen on FreeSync monitors by helping partners pick the right components (Tcon, scalars, etc.) and to drive a “fast evolution” in this area.
Source: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync-*
You then bring up the fact that after we did discover that a firmware fix occurred (after our review), we posted a completely new article four months after our review recognizing the changes and improvements. There is a fair point to be made that we should have gone back to the original story and updated it with links to the new story. However, by doing a follow-up story and posting it in the same channels as the original (main site, video, Twitter, etc.) we believe we did due diligence here.
*In an industry that constantly changing with new hardware reviews, firmware updates, and even software and driver changes, keeping up with it is difficult. Extremely difficult. We will continue to find ways to do it better.
Any claims we made in comments or forums that panels in the competing G-Sync and FreeSync monitors were identical are false, and our error. But in our originally story, where articles are edited and curated, we state clearly that they shared the same “specifications”:
It’s impossible now to know if that is the cause for the difference seen above. But with the ROG Swift and BenQ XL2730Z sharing the same 144 Hz TN panel specifications, there is obviously something different about the integration.
Source: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync-*
Should comments and forum posts have been more accurate? Yes.
You also mention our frequent streams with NVIDIA’s Tom Petersen as a source bias in our content. While we definitely have hosted Tom in our offices many times, the invite has always been open for any vendor we work with to co-host a live stream to talk to our audience. AMD has taken us up on these offers on seven specific instances:
· [https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Live-Review-Recap-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-]Edition(https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Live-Review-Recap-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-GHz-Edition)
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-Interview-AMDs-Richard-Huddy-June-17th-4pm-ET-1pm-PT
· https://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-Live-Stream-and-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-Radeon-RX-480-Live-Stream-Raja-Koduri
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-Discussion-and-RX-480-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/PCPer-Live-AMD-Radeon-Crimson-ReLive-Discussion-and-RX-580-Giveaway
· https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-adds-game-overlay-mobile-app-wider-API-support
We probably have done more interviews with Tom than with AMD or any other vendor, but this is not indicative of anything other than NVIDIA’s desire to communicate with our audience slightly more frequently.
Next, you discuss the RX 480 power issue and indicate that PC Perspective’s stories were inflammatory and without merit. I would point out that not only did AMD acknowledge and fix the issue, but we were not the first media outlet to show the problem. Tom’s Hardware actually reported the problem first, and we linked to them in our first story on the topic. We worked with AMD to supply them with our data as we got it, to solicit input before, after, and during the story writing.
Another point brought up in your video is that PC Perspective appears to be willing to work behind the scenes with some companies to help fix problems and potential issues, but not with AMD. That is factually incorrect. We have worked with AMD in many instances, providing information before product releases, to help them fix problems.
Examples include our Frame Rating / FCAT testing, where we shared data, opinions, and insights with AMD months before the release of the first public story. On the Ryzen latency “ping test” we also sent information to AMD before publication to ask for input and feedback. When Ryzen motherboards were having significant issues at launch we worked with them and partners on updates and BIOS improvements in the background before reviewing those products. The facts are that we work with every company on the same level.
On the issue of AMD using an Amazon.com link that included our affiliate code, the first time I was aware of that was when the link and screenshot Anandtech’s Ryan Smith tweet was sent out. I never had any conversation with anyone at AMD about including it, or why it was there even after the fact. It was not something we asked for, expected, or benefitted from. A search of our Amazon.com affiliate data from July through today shows exactly zero Vega Frontier Edition cards sold on our account, from links on our articles or from AMD’s website.
Now let’s address the Shrout Research side of your story. Shrout Research was started in October of 2016 to allow us to offer services that we were being asked for from companies already, but separated from the PC Perspective website. It is probably fair to say that we have not been as open as we could or should have been about how this works.
But it is crucial to recognize that were not hiding this company or its relationship to me. The company and my position there is listed on my Twitter profile. We often link to ShroutResearch.com in stories posted on pcper.com. We have discussed Shrout Research on the podcast. I have answered questions about the company in mailbags from user-submitted questions. It is listed in my pcper.com profile page. Most (probably all) stories posted on MarketWatch or similar sites list my relationship to both companies. We link to the Shrout Research white papers (including the 900P paper) in some PC Perspective stories.
To address specific problems you have noted, I’ll start with the 900P paper and review. You claim that our test suite for the 900P review on PC Perspective was created for the Intel work done with Shrout Research. This is not true. The first review to use Allyn’s Latency Percentile performance testing methodology was with the launch of the Samsung 960 EVO in November of 2016 and research of this new testing process was first shown with the 950 PRO review in October of 2015. The 900P review was using this same testing method.
Furthermore, the testing that was showcased in the Shrout Research 900P white paper and the review differ greatly. You assert that the review on PC Perspective is simply a copy of the testing and work done on the research side, however looking at the paper and the review shows that isn’t the case. Benchmarks and analysis of applications like AS-SSD, CrystalDiskMark, Anvil, Photo Mechanic, and Houdini are in the paper, but were not used in the review. The data presented in the review is based on Allyn’s custom testing capabilities, of which only two small results are part of the white paper.
The testing for Shrout Research and PC Perspective testing of the 900P was done on different systems as well. The review data was gathered on our standard PCPer storage testing platform and the Shrout Research data was gathered on a platform that Intel specifically requested we configure. The review on PCPer used retail drives, the testing for Shrout Research was using engineering samples. Even more, the performance of the data results that do overlap are actually LOWER in the review on PC Perspective as they were tested on a different platform than the one used on the white paper. The results on PC Perspective and Shrout Research are not copies.
The concern over using hardware and devices received through Shrout Research arrangements for the review on PC Perspective is valid. Honestly, we didn’t see the harm (at the time) to include the second capacity of the 900P in our review as it presented more information to the reader. Was this unfair to others in the media? Probably. Have we seen numerous other exclusives come to websites (including us) over the years that weren’t fair to the media? Yes. Are samples often sent out differently from site to site? Absolutely. See the RX Vega launch most recently and many storage reviews that send different capacities and sets to reviewers.
If you follow PC Perspective at all, you know that we were going to publish a review on PC Perspective of the 900P regardless of the existence of the white paper or our arrangements with Intel. And our opinion of the product would not be have been swayed. Our agreement with Intel was to vet and evaluate the 900P so it could get an idea of how the device stood in the market and how it might be received in the public. The white paper was only to be written if Intel thought the results from our testing were positive in their eyes, however the fee Shrout Research was paid was the same regardless of whether or not the paper was produced.
Shrout Research currently works the biggest, and most competitive, companies in the high-tech world, including Intel, AMD, NVIDIA, Qualcomm, and Arm. We have done similar work for others on this list, in particular AMD. We have done evaluation of hardware prior to media and public device availability, to advise and showcase the performance as our team sees it. In those cases with AMD, which began in March of 2017, AMD used the reports internally and decided to not request a public paper from Shrout Research.
If any of these companies saw me, or Shrout Research, or anyone on our team as unreliable or capable of bias, they would have no reason to work with me, especially on the Shrout Research side. Instead, the 18+ years of work that I have under me and the positive results I have produced in terms of relevant, honest, and useful content leads them to partner with us to help make their products, messaging, and companies better.
As I said at the beginning, nothing about Shrout Research is hidden or was attempted to be secretive. Should we have been more explicit in some disclosures? Yes, clearly. Should we have been stricter in how product was shared between the two entities? Probably. It’s something we had honestly discussed just this past week, and this story further necessitates the need for it.
At the end of the day, the trust of the reader and the companies that work with us is paramount and the only thing that keeps us going. There will always be some individuals that don’t like us or have insurmountable distrust of us for some reason; it’s been that way for literally the last 18 years of my life. But I know that we attempt to treat every company equally, treat every product equally, and every situation equally.
Many people feel a sense of distrust around paid advertising on hardware sites. I obviously disagree that running ads for a company inherently means you are going to be biased towards them, and I have built and sustained PC Perspective on that very point, a similar application of trust must be applied here. If readers and viewers were able to trust our reviews for ASUS motherboards, despite running ASUS advertising on our site, or our videos on EVGA graphics cards despite running EVGA advertising on our site, then I feel that readers should continue to trust us as Shrout Research moves forward.
Here is a list of the companies that we have worked with on the advertising side in the last 10 years:
· AMD
· Antec
· ASUS
· BFG
· Cooler Master
· Corsair
· Crucial
· Diamond
· Drobo
· ECS
· Enermax
· EVGA
· FSP
· Galaxy
· Gigabyte
· Intel
· Logitech
· MSI
· Newegg
· NCIX
· NVIDIA
· OCZ / Toshiba
· Samsung
· Seasonic
· Silverstone
· Thermaltake
· Tiger Direct
· Western Digital
· XFX
· Zalman
There have been years where AMD is our biggest sponsor; several in fact. There are years where Logitech has been. ASUS is generally one of our biggest sponsors. The point I want to make here is that if you didn’t trust us before, there is little I can do to change that. But if you did trust us before, I think we have proven ourselves over the course of many years that the trust is warranted.
And for clarity, the companies we have worked with through Shrout Research:
· AMD
· Arm
· Intel
· NVIDIA
· Qualcomm
I believe that work that you do, despite our differences, is incredibly important to keeping people on their toes and maintaining sanity. I don’t believe that you have correctly portrayed the work we do or how we operate.We aren't perfect, I am not perfect. I don't believe any of us have ever made that claim. But I do know that you have taken our work and intent out of context.
If you still have to have a video calling us out for our practices, I obviously can’t stop you. But I would request that you fix the factual errors in your video. That includes the FreeSync story, the assertion that we don’t work with AMD prior to posting stories (including the ping testing and the RX 480 power), the affiliate link on AMD’s website, the lack of differences between the 900P white paper and the review, and that we have not been forthcoming (at all) about the existence and relationship of Shrout Research and PC Perspective.
I don’t consider this list of points exhaustive, by any means. I didn’t have time to re-watch or transcribe your video in order to dive into details on each and every point. Should something specific come to mind you want me to answer, let me know. If you have other question or problems with how we do things, or how we appear to be doing things from an external view, I’ll gladly answer them.
AdoredTV 7:14 PM (2 hours ago)
to me Thanks Ryan.
I feel you have raised some valid points however it's not nearly enough for me to keep the video private. Specifically, you failed to address the major points regarding conflict of interest and the "FreeSync vs G-Sync Ghosting Comparison" video, both of which have still not been rectified.
Can I again point to the EJN's article where it clearly states...
  1. Accountability A sure sign of professionalism and responsible journalism is the ability to hold ourselves accountable. When we commit errors we must correct them and our expressions of regret must be sincere not cynical. We listen to the concerns of our audience. We may not change what readers write or say but we will always provide remedies when we are unfair.
I will have a closer look on Monday to see if you have remedied these faults before continuing with the rest of your response. Regards,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 7:20 PM (2 hours ago)
to AdoredTV Okay. Can you expand for me the points about the comparison story and video that you believe are still concerning? Is it that we have not updated the video and text of the write up to reference the later story?
AdoredTV 8:02 PM (2 hours ago)
to me Hi Ryan.
Sure I'll expand on these points. 1) I see no reason why you would not have rectified your error with the "FreeSync vs G-Sync ghosting" video, given what you have had pointed out to you today. That is literally a 5 second edit to the title which you chose to ignore.
2) The Optane review still looks the same - that is there is still nothing advising the reader of any potential conflict of interest. I'm sure you're aware of all the FTC regulations regarding this subject - but please...neither of us has any desire to go down that route I'm sure. - Jim On a personal level - When your changes are complete, it would likely be beneficial to point them out on social media. You will gain far more from these two small actions than your current course ever will - and by that I mean you will regain respect from your viewers. My bet would be you'd also find it all very liberating, because pride is a terrible thing. It's very late here and this has taken up much of my day so forgive me as I have to retire to bed.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 8:16 PM (1 hour ago)
to AdoredTV Honestly, I was planning to include links and updates, but, I didn't want it to look like I was doing something manipulative before we had some to some kind of resolution. I agree these are 5-second edits, and I say in my rather long feedback note that I thought it was a reasonable request. You instead immediately posted the video back up, which I didn't think would occur without the dialogue.
The same applies to the Optane review - not wanting to change ANYTHING on the site as it would look like we were trying to change things out from under you, or the community. I assure you that my lawyer and I have gone over the regulations in this country for disclosure before starting the company, we are know what the bounds of "legal" and "moral" are. Also, do you not think AMD/Intel/NVIDIA/Qualcomm/Arm have lawyers that vet every relationship like this? If I was breaking the law, they would never have me working with them.
Are you going to keep the video up, even if these edits occur? What about your claims of correcting content that is known to be incorrect, incomplete, inaccurate? That seems to violate the rule, does it not, with all of the information you have had sent your way?
AdoredTV 8:39 PM (1 hour ago)
to me If you had simply rectified or even given the indication that you were open to rectifying both issues then sure I would have taken that under consideration. There was nothing to suggest that either move would be made. As it was, you basically just regurgitated a bunch of text from your reviews which I've already read. This stuff doesn't translate very well across the Atlantic. I made the video private on good faith Ryan. I was the one who offered to unlist it, then I agreed to make it private on your suggestion. I did what I could reasonably be expected to do to help you but you didn't take the chance. These past hours have been filled with me fighting my own viewers over claims of weakness, selling out or other nonsense like legal threats forcing me to take it down. I spent the last 6 hours fighting my own viewers because of this.
I didn't have to deal with any of that but I did...because I gave you the chance. I was hoping for a real show of accountability and this is what your readers want to see too. Please just apologise Ryan - make a statement, show that you've removed/changed the title of the FreeSync Video and updated your Optane review. I promise you that I will not gloat - in fact I'd be far more likely to applaud you for it. If that is done by the time I wake tomorrow, I'll put the video private again. I need to sleep, it's 1:30 here.
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 9:21 PM (43 minutes ago)
to AdoredTV It is done. The point of the initial email was to have a discussion and clarify things. I'm disappointed that you would repost the video even after the concerns I brought up about some of the rash notes and emails I received.
Here is the video with updated title and link to the updated story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ylLnT2yKyA Here is the FS story with link at top of first page: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Displays/AMD-FreeSync-First-Impressions-and-Technical-Discussion/Gaming-Experience-FreeSync- The bottom of this page discloses the specifics of the Intel 900P paper and review: https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Storage/Intel-Optane-SSD-900P-480GB-and-280GB-NVMe-HHHL-SSD-Review-Lots-3D-XPoint/Conclusion
I will likely post a thread on reddit to bring up the points that I brought up to you in the long email, since that information is already out there and in the public. No mal-intent intended to you there, just making sure the points I sent you are public.
Jim P 4:43 AM Saturday
to me Thanks Ryan.
I've decided to skip the party today and get a video out on this topic and to clarify what happens next, so that this can be avoided in future. I will put the video private at the same time. Regards,
Jim
Ryan Shrout [email protected] 10:39 AM Saturday
to Jim While I am sorry for you to miss your family event, I appreciate the removal of the video and whatever update you might have.
I will be posting our comments and thread here to reddit sometime this morning.
Congratulations, you reached the end!
Again, thanks for reading and for giving us a chance to state our position.
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2017.12.09 03:23 autotldr Former Fox News anchor: Trump tried to kiss me on the lips

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 50%. (I'm a bot)
A former Fox News anchor said Friday that President Trump tried to kiss her in an elevator in "2005 or 2006," which she said surprised her but did not make her feel threatened.
It's unclear whether Trump was married at the time since the former anchor, Juliet Huddy, does not recall the exact date, Page Six reported.
"He took me for lunch at Trump Tower, just us two," Huddy said on Compound Media's "Mornin'! With Bill Schulz." "He said goodbye to me in an elevator while his security guy was there; rather than kiss me on the cheek he leaned in to kiss me on the lips. I wasn't offended, I was kind of like, 'Oh my god.'".
Trump appeared to acknowledge his past with Huddy in an appearance on her Fox News show, saying, "I hit on her but she blew me off."
Huddy left Fox News after filing a harassment complaint against Bill O'Reilly, ultimately accepting a six-figure settlement from Fox's parent company, 21st Century Fox.
After Sen. Al Franken stepped down from the Senate on Thursday over groping allegations, some lawmakers, including Sen. Bernie Sanders, have called for Trump to step down over the allegations against him.
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2015.08.13 16:15 goatcan Who's going to the Chicago meetup?

Hey! Who is coming to the Chicago Meetup? If you are coming I will make sure to give you a cigar (no bomb codes). If you have not bought tickets yet, you can buy them here

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2014.11.13 04:56 goatcan Tips On Throwing Your Next Herf

I am fortunate to live in a dense city with plenty of /cigars friends who love to share the leaf on any given day. I have also gone to a few cities and have been lucky enough to round up a few people who are down to herf. Whether you're in town visiting or want to throw a herf in your own neck of the woods, here is what I found helps when throwing a herf!
Picking the venue The right cigar shop will be very important in making sure people want to come and be comfortable. What makes the right cigar shop? Important variables to consider include the variety of cigars a venue carries, the amount of space they offer for smoking, whether or not they allow outside cigars, and their alcohol policy. Leave some flexibility with regard on location since other people may have to travel far to get there and definitely find your favorite B&M where you know the people there!
Piggybacking off an event that is happening is a great way to attract more people to a herf. If there are cigar manufacturers or sales reps coming in or if a great event where deals are going to happen, this will be a great reason to get together and share the leaf. I usually don't try to do this in Chicago but that is because events typically will draw a lot of non /cigars folks.
When picking a venue make sure you contact whoever is in charge of the B&M to make sure they can accommodate your group, clarify the booze and confirm rules of the outside cigar policy. This makes sure you will have enough room for herfing and if someone comes asking, "Hey, where's the herf?" the people working the venue can direct them to the herf!
Check the User Map on the Dashboard Did you know that the trade dashboard has a user map? The user map shows every user who has been verified in the history of /cigars! Keep in mind that this sometimes will include people who are no longer active on the sub or haven't posted in awhile. It never hurts to check the user map since you don't know who might just be living a few miles away!
Make your announcement Posting about your herf is important if you don't know anyone who lives near you or if you're visiting another city. If someone is visiting Chicago they might ask, "Where is a good place to smoke?" or they might PM me to ask, "Where is a good place to smoke while I'm in town?" Making a herf while you're visiting town is a great way to pass some hours while you're out on "business." If you're throwing a herf in your own home town make sure to announce what day you're planning to herf and where you want people to meet up. Again, always leave room for negotiating time/date/venue.
Keep a list of who is attending In the post where you are listing the herf, add their names to the post to keep track of who's in and who's a maybe. You never know when a maybe becomes a yes or a yes becomes a maybe. Keeping the list of potential attendees visible also makes it easier for other people to see who's coming to the herf. If out of towners are coming to the herf it will likely mean more people will show up!!!
Contact the mods to update the Herfs and Meetups link Send modmail using the sidebar to inform the mods that there will be a herf going on. You can also contact hodgesa to update the herf page. That way if anyone's looking to herf, they can see where the next upcoming herf will be. Maintaining visibility on your herf is a very important on hammering down the message: there will be herfing!
Post and Re-post How much posting is too much posting? I generally will try to post about throwing a herf 2-3 weeks before the herf actually happens. I will then follow up weekly by posting all potential attendees and giving a status update. Friendly reminders will help people from forgetting about the herf and accidentally skipping it. Shout outs to /cigars folks will also serve to see if they can make it!
Day of the Herf On the day of the herf remember to repost and confirm details of the herf and attendees this way people. Whether it's going to be three people or thirty, posting will make sure everyone remembers all the details or if they need to look up the venue details while they're on the road. When you arrive at the venue make sure to communicate to the people working that your group will be in whatever area so they can direct people to where you will be, this will be very important with new people since they won't know who anyone is and you won't be carrying a sign saying /CIGARS HERF on you!
Do not forget to check into reddit and announce on your herf post where you are in the B&M. PM folks who said they are or might be attending to let them know where you'll be! The worst thing that could happen is someone shows up and was not able to find you and you'll get the, "Well I made it there, but I didn't see anybody!" when you were right there! Last time I was in Atlanta I didn't talk to the people running the shop so I posted on the sub to make sure people could find me or I could find them! Nothing is worse than sitting waiting for a herf and not being sure who is who and if anyone is actually there!
Now this next point may be controversial but in Chicago everyone is the same way. For a herf, make sure to bring plenty of extra smokes! Chances are there will be a lot of people giving away cigars, sharing cigars, trading cigars and sure as hell talking about cigars. Make sure to buy some cigars from the shop to support the business for hosting your herf and bring cigars to share with people if you can afford it. If someone hands you a free cigars, it's up to you if you want to give one back, it will all depend on your economic situation and personal preference but don't feel discouraged from attending a herf if you have only smoked two cigars in your life!
For people who have never attended a herf in your life, make sure you grab someone's number before the herf to make sure you get to the herf safely and can find everyone. It is OK to bring friends to a herf even if they're not from /cigars and never be afraid to attend a herf - damn near everyone I've ever herfed would has been a gentleman/woman and a scholar. It can really change the way you view cigars and add a dimension you may never have noticed, and once in awhile you might just lear a lick or two about cigars.
If you are already a veteran to the cigar game, make sure you spend time to make newbies and new people feel welcome to the herf. Whenever new people come to a herf I am always excited because as someone new there is so much out there to try and learn about and I make my effort to share information, make people feel welcome, and be hospitable. If you're organizing a herf or know a lot about cigars, realize that new people or people who don't know anyone in the group may feel intimidated by everyone's cigar knowledge and not want to appear dumb or stupid. There are no dumb questions, and leave the cigar snobbery and attitude at home, herfing comes to the core of what being a BOTL is about, so don't leave the newbies out - cigars are for everyone no matter how long you've been in the game.
After your herf is complete, make sure to post pictures and write a recap post so that everyone can see what a great time was had at the herf!
Not less than a year ago I attended my first herf at Casa de Montecristo and insanemo picked me up from the train station. I was introduced to SecretAgentMang, cmac1988 JustPlainJef BigDaveHuddy and a myriad cast of /cigars friends. They all taught me a lot and I will gladly light up with them again. For people aspiring to throw that next herf - do it. For newbies who have never come to a herf - do it.
For anyone coming to the herf I am throwing Saturday - Beware of GOAT
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2013.03.08 20:03 powmj Jake and Amir: Doobs 3

Jake: Hey, you're watching Jake and Amir
Amir: I told you we could be naked!
Jake: Oh my god get out
Jake: Well this was supposed to be an intervention, but i guess no one like you enough to show up.
Amir: Oh
Jake: Don't act smug, I know that hurt.
Amir: Is it something I said, or did?
Jake: I mean both. You've been rubbing everyone the wrong way for the past four or five years.
Amir: Yeah, that explains why everybody's been acting coy to me since 2003
Jake: Not coy, it's not coy, they hate you
(Penis Anthony Hudson enters)
Doobs: Is he dead yet, or is it not that kind of intervention
Jake: What kind of interventions do you go to?
Doobs: (laughing)
Amir: What are you doing here, Doobs?
Doobs: I RSVP'd to this intervention one year ago today, on E-vite
Jake: Impossible, I didn't have an E-vite for this intervention, I just decided to have it last week.
Amir: So quiet up, Huddy!
Doobs: You can't call me that any more, A-Weird.
Amir: No!
Doobs: Yes! Because of three seconds ago I have litterally changed my name yet again to Penis Dickling, The Goose! (Howls)
Jake: That's not a goose noise
Amir: Now how am I to make fun of him?
Jake: I don't know, Penis is still pretty bad, I mean dickling is awful
Amir: Mr Goose
Doobs: Grrr, Curse you!
Jake: That's the nicest thing he could have called you.
Doobs: Never matter, we're not here to discuss myself, or the millions of films I've now been cast in. We're here to talk about A-Weird and his father, and his father's tiny, spindly, sticky little legs.
Jake: Wait a second, films?
Doobs: Oh you haven't heard? I am now officially, and universally, a famous actress
Amir: whoah, short shorts
Jake: You know I really hope you just misspoke.
Doobs: I didn't. I've been casted as the fem fatal in the brilliant film "A bridge over river Queer". Yes, you heard that. How do you like that range, even Thomas Hanks hasn't played a woman, and he's a MTV award nominee!
Jake: Okay, I don't think you're right about either of those things.
Amir: Yes he is!
Jake: No he's not!
Amir: Yes he is!
Doobs: No, I'm not. Tell me, do you have a CD-ROM drive?
Jake: No
Doobs: What?
Jake: We don't have a CD-ROM drive.
Doobs: Meaning?
Jake: Meaning they're old and out of date, we don't have one.
Doobs: Then what the hell is this? (Picks up a phone)
Jake: It's a telephone.
Doobs: Okay, and these?
Jake: Books
Doobs: Well then wheres you're CD-ROM drive?
Jake: We'd We don't have one!
Doobs: How many gigabytes does you're company own?
Jake: How is that relevant?
Doobs: You're not a tycoon, you're whole job is a lie!
Jake: What are you talking about?
Doobs: (Angrily) Give me your CD-ROM drive!
Jake: We have a DVD player!
Doobs: What is that?
Jake: It plays DVDs, are you serious?
Doobs: Meaning?
Jake: Meaning it plays DVDs
Doobs: Level with me, this has an MPEG 4 on it, can you play it?
Jake: Probably, just put it in the DVD player, okay, we'll see. (Doobs turns and throws the CD into a DVD player)
Amir: Wow
Jake: Insane!
Doobs (On screen, dressed as a woman): New York city 1995, BC.
Jake (IRL): Wow Doobs this looks awful
Amir (IRL): Shh it's brilliant.
Jake (IRL): How could you say that? (Amir poiints at the screen, as he walks on dressed in a green nightie. The background to the film is the Eiffel tower)
Amir (On Screen): Hello, Mrs Doobs!
Doobs (On Screen): Hello peasant
Amir (On Screen) : No!
Jake (IRL): I get it.
Doobs (On screen): Today we make history, much like your father tried to make history with me
Amir (On screen): Stop.
Doobs (On Screen):A million years ago when he tried to hug me
Amir (On Screen): Don't!
Doobs (On Screen): and smooch me
Amir (On Screen): No!
Doobs (On Screen): A thousand time in one day!
Amir (On Screen): No, you're off script!
Doobs (On Screen): and I let him!
Amir (On Screen): Gahhh, I'll kill you!
Doobs (On Screen): I challenge you to a wrestling match! (They fight on screen)
FOUR HOURS LATER
(Jake stands up and leave, Amir and Doobs are clapping) Amir and Doobs(IRL): It's brilliant Brava, Brava, Brava!
(On screen Amir and Doobs are also clapping) Amir and Doobs (On Screen): Brava, Brava, Magnificoal!
Amir and Doobs (IRL): Brava! (Amir blows kisses, Doobs laughs)
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